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I did and I met the reaction and was forced to deal with it. Why it should be different for someone else?

by viach 9y ago

DarkKomunalec 9y ago
I'm confused - is your argument just 'Them's the breaks'?
- viach 9y ago
  Argument againt what? A man broke the local law and faced consequences. My thoughts, that was not a good decision. For me this is the same as someone from a wild tribe ate a software developer in NY and posted an angry comment on HN, why he is sentenced
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0xfeba 9y ago
So North Korean parents should just "deal with it" that their children fled the country and so they were sent to labor camps? Because, that's the law, you know.
- viach 9y ago
  Their children had 2 options and they selected one, having all understanding of what will happen next. What to comply about?
  - kakarot 9y ago
    Yes, and every man, woman, and child in an abusive relationship should just leave and find something better, or shut up and stop complaining. It's their choice, after all. Yes, I had no right protesting my own abusive childhood because I could have given myself up to the state and been put in foster care. I was in the wrong for ever standing up for myself and deserved the consequences I had to suffer. I mean seriously, listen to how vitriolic and unempathetic you sound. You come across as someone who has no compassion for the unjust authoritarian rule some are forced to endure, someone so sheltered from the extremities of human emotion that you can still perceive the world and the choices people make in stark black and white. You speak of the usefulness in understanding law, of acting with respect for the system that governs you. So I leave you with this: "I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
    - viach 9y ago
      What a tone "I leave you with this" :) Okay. I'm just saying that there is single option: Make a decision and meet the reaction without complaints, which your quote states, right? If you have complaints, that was not a decision but a mistake, wasn't it?
      - kakarot 9y ago
        If you don't complain and make noise then you won't be nearly as effective in arousing the conscience of the community. You can accept punishment (as in not martyr yourself or attempt to harm an authoritative figure) while still complaining that your punishment is unjust. I really don't understand your angle here.

I did and I met the reaction and was forced to deal with it. Why it should be different for someone else?

by viach 9y ago

I did and I met the reaction and was forced to deal with it. Why it should be different for someone else?

DarkKomunalec 9y ago

I'm confused - is your argument just 'Them's the breaks'?

viach 9y ago
Argument againt what? A man broke the local law and faced consequences. My thoughts, that was not a good decision. For me this is the same as someone from a wild tribe ate a software developer in NY and posted an angry comment on HN, why he is sentenced

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0xfeba 9y ago

So North Korean parents should just "deal with it" that their children fled the country and so they were sent to labor camps? Because, that's the law, you know.

viach 9y ago
Their children had 2 options and they selected one, having all understanding of what will happen next. What to comply about?
- kakarot 9y ago
  Yes, and every man, woman, and child in an abusive relationship should just leave and find something better, or shut up and stop complaining. It's their choice, after all. Yes, I had no right protesting my own abusive childhood because I could have given myself up to the state and been put in foster care. I was in the wrong for ever standing up for myself and deserved the consequences I had to suffer. I mean seriously, listen to how vitriolic and unempathetic you sound. You come across as someone who has no compassion for the unjust authoritarian rule some are forced to endure, someone so sheltered from the extremities of human emotion that you can still perceive the world and the choices people make in stark black and white. You speak of the usefulness in understanding law, of acting with respect for the system that governs you. So I leave you with this: "I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
  - viach 9y ago
    What a tone "I leave you with this" :) Okay. I'm just saying that there is single option: Make a decision and meet the reaction without complaints, which your quote states, right? If you have complaints, that was not a decision but a mistake, wasn't it?
    - kakarot 9y ago
      If you don't complain and make noise then you won't be nearly as effective in arousing the conscience of the community. You can accept punishment (as in not martyr yourself or attempt to harm an authoritative figure) while still complaining that your punishment is unjust. I really don't understand your angle here.