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They advertise remote jobs but it is actually limited to several counties. Also, they differentiate salaries based on your location.
by zerr 9y ago
They advertise remote jobs but it is actually limited to several counties. Also, they differentiate salaries based on your location.
- gcp 9y agoGetting hired directly by Mozilla requires them to have a (minimal) legal presence in your country. If that isn't there, you'll be hired through an intermediary, but that is - as far as I know - possible essentially worldwide.
- zerr 9y agoNo, that intermediary option is also limited to some particular countries.
- gcp 9y agoAFAIK it's more correct to say that only some particular countries are excluded, but I'm not HR and I have no idea where your are getting that impression from, so I won't comment further.
- zerr 9y agoI got this information from Mozilla HR who clarified this with the hiring manager, for the country in Europe.
- gcp 9y agoOk, so one country in Europe is excluded. This is quite far removed from "remote hiring limited to some particular countries". A large part of Mozilla's workforce is spread out through Europe, so there can't be too many exceptions.
- zerr 9y ago"... only available in particular countries which doesn't include your country, unfortunately..." was the message from HR.
- canuckistani 9y agoThat's true, we can't hire everywhere.
- zerr 9y agoA very small shop in a very beaurocratic EU country receives the invoices in PDF at the end of the month, from another country far outside the EU, pays the bill through standard bank wire transfer. Why Mozilla can't do the same?
- jvehent 9y agoLegal requirements in a handful of countries make it really hard to hire, but the vast majority of the world is usually fair game. I'm not sure what the industry standard is wrt adjusting salary based on location, but considering the cost of housing in the Bay area or NYC, it seems fair to pay the folks who live there more than, for example, me who lives in the boonies of Florida.
- zerr 9y agoExtremes aside, one of the main reasons for working remotely is to escape the local [low wage] market, especially in developing countries.
- gcp 9y agoDifferentiated salary does not imply low wage. It means you don't get 150k USD/year for a Junior Software Engineer in rural India.
- zerr 9y agoNeither 100K for a Senior Engineer...
- tedmielczarek 9y agoI live in rural Pennsylvania and Mozilla pays me quite well as a staff engineer, FWIW.
- ianbicking 9y agoIf you are curious about the compensation model, I wrote about it some here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13881004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13881004 – I personally think it's pretty fair. It's true we don't hire everywhere. Most people are from the EU, United States, and Canada. There is an office in Japan, China, Taiwan, and a small group in New Zealand, with some people scattered about in Australia. The timezones in Asia are really rough, so I believe there's reluctance to hire there for positions where the team is not already located in Asia. Outside of those countries I think we've used Elance (which is Upwork now?), but I think that's discouraged for new hires.