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There are many differences: 1. Nazis started WW2 with around 80 million deaths, including hundreds of thousands US soldiers, and killed 5-6 million Jews in the
by JohnStrange 9y ago
There are many differences:
1. Nazis started WW2 with around 80 million deaths, including hundreds of thousands US soldiers, and killed 5-6 million Jews in the gas chambers of concentration camps.
2. McCarthyism originated from and was systematically exerted by the US government in many official capacities. There were vetting committees, job prohibitions, and other direct government interference including using intelligence agencies to gain information on US citizens. They didn't let Charlie Chaplin enter the US.
That's very different from a private company that ceases to make business with a Nazi website due to violations of their ToS.
On a side note, John von Neumann suggested to government officials to pro-actively launch a nuclear strike on Moskow. That tells you how different the climate was then as opposed to now.
- mantas 9y agoCommunists have started WW2 along with Nazis and are responsible for a big chunk of those deaths. They killed a lot of people in gulags as well. If people with the this mindset would get to official government, how long would it take to launch McCarthyist-like policies?
- JohnStrange 9y agoThis is complete and utter nonsense. WW2 was started by the Germans under direct supervision and order of Adolf Hitler, by attacking Poland under false pretense. Later on Hitler attacked Russia despite a peace treaty he had signed, and yes, a large majority of the victims of WW2 were Russians who had the highest death toll among all nations. Your comment and many others in this thread are a shame for humanity, and I mean that seriously without hyperbole.
- mantas 9y agoSoviets attacked Poland few days after Nazis and split it exactly as described in peace treaty you mention. Soviets later rolled through Baltic states, Bessarabia and attacked Finland. Exactly as agreed in said peace treaty. While Nazis did their part of the deal in the West. A big part of Soviet deaths were thanks to utter mismanagement and not paying much attention to human life. Even catastrophes like Leningrad siege may have been avoided (or at least greatly reduced) if Soviets were more humane. It's a shame to humanity to call USSR a victim of WW2. Not only they started it, but they also took home the most. For a half of Europe, WW2 ended only after the fall of Iron Curtain. After nearly 3 decades, the division is still huge. It will take a long time to get rid of USSR legacy.
- JohnStrange 9y agoTwist it as you like, fact is that Germany started WWII - as you also admit, since the facts you mention fully support that and not your point of view.
- mantas 9y agoWhat fact? That Nazis and Soviets had a pact on how to split Europe and started WW2 together acting on it? And then had a parade to celebrate splitting Poland? But yes, technically Nazis started WW2 few days earlier and then Soviets joined in :) I doubt that makes much of a difference. By the way, just to mess with your mind more... It was Soviets who attacked my country first and started terrorising civilians. Nazis were sort of liberators when they attacked from the other side although they soon turned out not much better. Then Soviets came back, fucked shit up even more and forgot to leave for 50 years. Cool, huh? Sorry, saying that WW2 was Nazi job and claiming that Soviets didn't start it hand-in-hand with Nazis is just a disgrace to thousands for people who died at the hands of either.
- JohnStrange 9y agoNothing you're saying is new to me, all I wanted is to correct your false statements, which I did.