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CloudFare served DailyStormer for years. Then DailyStormer says CloudFare are secretly nazis. Then CloudFare say "no we don't, goodbye". If DailyStormer hadn

CloudFare served DailyStormer for years. Then DailyStormer says CloudFare are secretly nazis. Then CloudFare say "no we don't, goodbye". If DailyStormer hadn't been so stupid, and had never claimed CloudFare was anything other than neutral, then they would still be served? Stupid own goal DailyStormer. The censorship and 'line' seems to be not what you say or incite against others, but what you say about CloudFare.

CaptainZapp 9y ago
The censorship and 'line' seems to be not what you say or incite against others, but what you say about CloudFare Well, sure. But if you shit on my living room carpet I'll also show you the door. As I think is my right.
- autotypo 9y ago
  He peed on my rug!
jrs95 9y ago
I think it was probably a tongue in cheek statement (since a lot of people would have accused them of being secret Nazis over this eventually) that Cloudflare took seriously, or at least saw as a good excuse to shut them down to appease some people while positioning themselves as strong supporters of free speech on the internet at the same time.
- mathw 9y ago
  Doesn't matter if it was tongue in cheek, it was still said, and that's not the kind of thing CloudFlare really need associated with their name. Of course it's going to be dragged through the mud anyway now, but at least it'll be for something they actually did.
ufmace 9y ago
> Then DailyStormer says CloudFare are secretly nazis. According to CloudFare... Can't seem to find exactly where they say this. Their platforms on which to say things seem to be dropping like flies here. Not saying they didn't claim that, but that's one of the problems with taking away someone's speech entirely - your only "source" for knowing what they have actually said is the claims of the people who just shut them down.
- kenjackson 9y ago
  The Daily Stormer doesn't have access to printers? I'm unclear why they need Cloudflare to distribute their beliefs.
vpeters25 9y ago
Think of this scenario: Oppresive government wants cloudflare to stop hosting some dissenters site. Cloudflare says no Then such government tries again, this time accusing dissenters of terrorism or something else despicable such as child molestation or hate speech. Cloudflare still refuses Then someone in such government impersonates the dissenters and claims cloudflare is on their side. Cloudflare immediately kicks dissenters out of their network. Free speech is hard.

CaptainZapp 9y ago

The censorship and 'line' seems to be not what you say or incite against others, but what you say about CloudFare Well, sure. But if you shit on my living room carpet I'll also show you the door. As I think is my right.

autotypo 9y ago
He peed on my rug!

jrs95 9y ago

I think it was probably a tongue in cheek statement (since a lot of people would have accused them of being secret Nazis over this eventually) that Cloudflare took seriously, or at least saw as a good excuse to shut them down to appease some people while positioning themselves as strong supporters of free speech on the internet at the same time.

mathw 9y ago
Doesn't matter if it was tongue in cheek, it was still said, and that's not the kind of thing CloudFlare really need associated with their name. Of course it's going to be dragged through the mud anyway now, but at least it'll be for something they actually did.

ufmace 9y ago

> Then DailyStormer says CloudFare are secretly nazis. According to CloudFare... Can't seem to find exactly where they say this. Their platforms on which to say things seem to be dropping like flies here. Not saying they didn't claim that, but that's one of the problems with taking away someone's speech entirely - your only "source" for knowing what they have actually said is the claims of the people who just shut them down.

kenjackson 9y ago
The Daily Stormer doesn't have access to printers? I'm unclear why they need Cloudflare to distribute their beliefs.

vpeters25 9y ago

Think of this scenario: Oppresive government wants cloudflare to stop hosting some dissenters site. Cloudflare says no Then such government tries again, this time accusing dissenters of terrorism or something else despicable such as child molestation or hate speech. Cloudflare still refuses Then someone in such government impersonates the dissenters and claims cloudflare is on their side. Cloudflare immediately kicks dissenters out of their network. Free speech is hard.