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> That's a fallacy because "free speech" is not unlimited - every civilization recognizes its existence is the result of limiting specific freedoms in order to

> That's a fallacy because "free speech" is not unlimited - every civilization recognizes its existence is the result of limiting specific freedoms in order to guarantee everyone other freedoms. Speech can't limit anyone else's freedom however. > Germany, among others, outlaw this kind of content Leading to multiple wwii games having a different version for Germany and for the rest of the world due to the censorship that they apply. > Perhaps the US should learn from them. Why should it?

losteric 9y ago
Discriminatory hateful speech absolutely limits the freedom of the discriminated group. If a Jewish person encounters an energized gaggle of Nazis, how do you think they will behave? Not freely. The freedom to say those discriminatory things also serves no purpose - It's either a call to action, or empty rhetoric... the former is illegal, the latter is pointless.
- kps 9y ago
  > If a Jewish person encounters an energized gaggle of Nazis, how do you think they will behave? Today? Counter-demonstrate, or walk away. Actual Nazis haven't been a serious threat to Jews for 70 years. By contrast, the large and well-funded groups today who call for genocide of Jews, and are doing their best to put it into practice, have widespread and open support among ‘progressives’, and nobody bats an eyelid when marchers wave their flags.
  - losteric 9y ago
    > By contrast, the large and well-funded groups today who call for genocide of Jews, and are doing their best to put it into practice, have widespread and open support among ‘progressives’, and nobody bats an eyelid when marchers wave their flags. lol, what the fuck are you talking about?
    - hutzlibu 9y ago
      I can translate: 'progressive' people are pro immigration. Many immigrants are muslim. Some muslim hate jews, therefore 'progressive' people support antisemitism. Simple, isn't it?
      - madeofpalk 9y ago
        What a load of bullshit. I support marriage equality and the right for gays to get married, but I don't enjoy the sexual activities that gay people do themselves.
        hutzlibu 9y ago
        sigh You apparently also don't enjoy someone just translating? (hint, translating doesn't mean the translator has the same opinion as the source, I thought that is obvious)
    - gspetr 9y ago
      He's talking about muslims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism#Hadith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism#Hadith The following hadith which forms a part of these Sahih Muslim hadiths has been quoted many times, and it became a part of the charter of Hamas.[79] The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews. (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)
- snakeanus 9y ago
  > Discriminatory hateful speech absolutely limits the freedom of the discriminated group How so? Speech is just speech.
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losteric 9y ago

Discriminatory hateful speech absolutely limits the freedom of the discriminated group. If a Jewish person encounters an energized gaggle of Nazis, how do you think they will behave? Not freely. The freedom to say those discriminatory things also serves no purpose - It's either a call to action, or empty rhetoric... the former is illegal, the latter is pointless.

kps 9y ago
> If a Jewish person encounters an energized gaggle of Nazis, how do you think they will behave? Today? Counter-demonstrate, or walk away. Actual Nazis haven't been a serious threat to Jews for 70 years. By contrast, the large and well-funded groups today who call for genocide of Jews, and are doing their best to put it into practice, have widespread and open support among ‘progressives’, and nobody bats an eyelid when marchers wave their flags.
- losteric 9y ago
  > By contrast, the large and well-funded groups today who call for genocide of Jews, and are doing their best to put it into practice, have widespread and open support among ‘progressives’, and nobody bats an eyelid when marchers wave their flags. lol, what the fuck are you talking about?
  - hutzlibu 9y ago
    I can translate: 'progressive' people are pro immigration. Many immigrants are muslim. Some muslim hate jews, therefore 'progressive' people support antisemitism. Simple, isn't it?
    - madeofpalk 9y ago
      What a load of bullshit. I support marriage equality and the right for gays to get married, but I don't enjoy the sexual activities that gay people do themselves.
      - hutzlibu 9y ago
        sigh You apparently also don't enjoy someone just translating? (hint, translating doesn't mean the translator has the same opinion as the source, I thought that is obvious)
  - gspetr 9y ago
    He's talking about muslims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism#Hadith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism#Hadith The following hadith which forms a part of these Sahih Muslim hadiths has been quoted many times, and it became a part of the charter of Hamas.[79] The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews. (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)
snakeanus 9y ago
> Discriminatory hateful speech absolutely limits the freedom of the discriminated group How so? Speech is just speech.
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