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73% of incidents? This is pure sleight of hand meant to deceive. When incident can be defined arbitrarily and possibly include both a gun massacre and a spray

73% of incidents? This is pure sleight of hand meant to deceive. When incident can be defined arbitrarily and possibly include both a gun massacre and a spray painted swastika as equal events, this stat is incredibly deceptive. What's the ratio when you count deaths? I'm on mobile but iirc it's about 90% killed by Islamic terrorists.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> What's the ratio when you count deaths? I'm on mobile but iirc it's about 90% killed by Islamic terrorists. 53% Islamist, 47% (other, as Islamist actually fit this description too) far-right, 0% other. (So the ratio is closer to 1:1 than the 9:1 you suggest) http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/look-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/...
- ZoeZoeBee 9y ago
  That GAO report for all intents and purposes counts any murder by a person affiliated with a right wing group as an act of terror, including prison beatings, death of a homeless man etc and lumps them in with legitimate acts of terror. http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf
  - KirinDave 9y ago
    But that standard is consistent across every group, so you can hardly argue it's unfair when it's universally applied.
    - Banthum 9y ago
      It is unfair if we're talking about terrorism, because prison murders are not terrorism. If we're going to talk about murders in a more general sense, you have to start looking at populations and then note that whites in the US are far, far more prevalent than Muslims.
      - croon 9y ago
        > If we're going to talk about murders in a more general sense, you have to start looking at populations and then note that whites in the US are far, far more prevalent than Muslims. But it's not murder in a general sense, it's murder by white supremacists. > It is unfair if we're talking about terrorism, because prison murders are not terrorism. Sure it is, if it's political, ie about white supremacy. Terrorism: > the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
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dragonwriter 9y ago

> What's the ratio when you count deaths? I'm on mobile but iirc it's about 90% killed by Islamic terrorists. 53% Islamist, 47% (other, as Islamist actually fit this description too) far-right, 0% other. (So the ratio is closer to 1:1 than the 9:1 you suggest) http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/look-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/...

ZoeZoeBee 9y ago
That GAO report for all intents and purposes counts any murder by a person affiliated with a right wing group as an act of terror, including prison beatings, death of a homeless man etc and lumps them in with legitimate acts of terror. http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf
- KirinDave 9y ago
  But that standard is consistent across every group, so you can hardly argue it's unfair when it's universally applied.
  - Banthum 9y ago
    It is unfair if we're talking about terrorism, because prison murders are not terrorism. If we're going to talk about murders in a more general sense, you have to start looking at populations and then note that whites in the US are far, far more prevalent than Muslims.
    - croon 9y ago
      > If we're going to talk about murders in a more general sense, you have to start looking at populations and then note that whites in the US are far, far more prevalent than Muslims. But it's not murder in a general sense, it's murder by white supremacists. > It is unfair if we're talking about terrorism, because prison murders are not terrorism. Sure it is, if it's political, ie about white supremacy. Terrorism: > the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

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