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> The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology. For t
by hashberry 9y ago
> The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology.
For those interested in more info behind this statement[0]:
In a post, [The Daily Stormer] site’s architect, Andrew Auernheimer, said he had personal relationships with people at Cloudflare, and they had assured him the company would work to protect the site in a variety of ways — including by not turning over data to European courts. Cloudflare has data centers in European countries such as Germany, which have strict hate speech and privacy laws.
Company officials offered differing responses when asked about Auernheimer’s post. Kramer, Cloudflare’s general counsel, said he had no knowledge of employee conversations with Auernheimer. Later, in an email, the company said Auernheimer was a well-known hacker, and that as a result at least one senior company official “has chatted with him on occasion and has spoken to him about Cloudflare’s position on not censoring the internet.”
A former Cloudflare employee, Ryan Lackey, said in an interview that while he doesn’t condone a lot of what Auernheimer does, he did on occasion give technical advice as a friend and helped some of the Stormer’s issues get resolved.
“I am hardcore libertarian/classical liberal about free speech — something like Daily Stormer has every right to publish, and it is better for everyone if all ideas are out on the internet to do battle in that sphere,” he said.
Vick at the ADL agrees that Anglin has a right to publish, but said people have the right to hold to task the Internet companies that enable him.
[0] https://www.propublica.org/article/how-cloudflare-helps-serve-up-hate-on-the-web https://www.propublica.org/article/how-cloudflare-helps-serv...
- jacquesm 9y agoFor those not following this closely: Aurenheimer == weev.
- ng12 9y agoWow. Sometimes it feels like the internet is a very small place.
- backpropaganda 9y agoI might be too young to understand the significance. Could you tell us why Aurenheimer being weev is interesting?
- jacquesm 9y agoWeev is a well known troll that seems to have made trolling his life's calling. He's despicable but his crimes are pretty low on the general scale of lawlessness. To see him involved in yet another controversy stirring the pot isn't all that surprising, it's what he lives for. As far as I'm any judge of this the man is mentally not 100%.
- et-al 9y agoDon't know if you know who weev is, but the New York Times had an longer feature on trolling years ago and he was one of the folks profiled: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html
- nippples 9y ago> The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology. Would it have been possible to deal with this problem this way instead: http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/defamation-libel-slander.html http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/defama...