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Nazi's aren't a protected class. I don't have to sell you server space. But I also don't have the right to knock down your own server, should you set one up on

Nazi's aren't a protected class. I don't have to sell you server space. But I also don't have the right to knock down your own server, should you set one up on the public internet.

vopi 9y ago
So what if no ISP wants to give them inet?
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  Sounds like a nice libertarian free-market solution.
int_19h 9y ago
A protected class is what we decide should be one. There weren't any protected classes at all, until one day there were, and we added things to that list since then. Nazis specifically aren't a protected class, of course. Neither are white people. But (any) race is a protected class. And (any) political opinion could be a protected class, as well. IIRC, this is already the case in California, with respect to employment - i.e. you cannot be fired for expressing a political opinion.
- unityByFreedom 9y ago
  > A protected class is what we decide should be one. There weren't any protected classes at all, until one day there were, and we added things to that list since then. Yes, we advanced to being a more civilized society. Adding "politics" to the list of protected classes is akin to removing all the other ones, since someone's "idea" can be that their race/sex/age/nationality makes them superior to all others. I'd never support a politician who promoted the idea of rolling back Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
  - int_19h 9y ago
    > Adding "politics" to the list of protected classes is akin to removing all the other ones, since someone's "idea" can be that their race/sex/age/nationality makes them superior to all others. Not at all. Adding the expression of some idea to the protected list does not, in any way, limit protection for other things on that list. It's the implementation of those ideas that would be a reversal.
    - unityByFreedom 9y ago
      So if an anti-abortion doctor wants to go work at an abortion clinic and express his or her views in the workplace, then you feel he or she shouldn't be allowed to be fired for expressing those views? Surely that would impact the business. What if a nazi wants to go work with a black rights group? Or a male sexist wants to work in a women's shelter? Adding politics to the list of protected classes would be the end of protected classes.
- billysielu 9y ago
  The whitelist is the problem (because it's white of course), so make it a blacklist instead.

Nazi's aren't a protected class. I don't have to sell you server space. But I also don't have the right to knock down your own server, should you set one up on the public internet.

vopi 9y ago

So what if no ISP wants to give them inet?

ceejayoz 9y ago
Sounds like a nice libertarian free-market solution.

int_19h 9y ago

A protected class is what we decide should be one. There weren't any protected classes at all, until one day there were, and we added things to that list since then. Nazis specifically aren't a protected class, of course. Neither are white people. But (any) race is a protected class. And (any) political opinion could be a protected class, as well. IIRC, this is already the case in California, with respect to employment - i.e. you cannot be fired for expressing a political opinion.

unityByFreedom 9y ago
> A protected class is what we decide should be one. There weren't any protected classes at all, until one day there were, and we added things to that list since then. Yes, we advanced to being a more civilized society. Adding "politics" to the list of protected classes is akin to removing all the other ones, since someone's "idea" can be that their race/sex/age/nationality makes them superior to all others. I'd never support a politician who promoted the idea of rolling back Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
- int_19h 9y ago
  > Adding "politics" to the list of protected classes is akin to removing all the other ones, since someone's "idea" can be that their race/sex/age/nationality makes them superior to all others. Not at all. Adding the expression of some idea to the protected list does not, in any way, limit protection for other things on that list. It's the implementation of those ideas that would be a reversal.
  - unityByFreedom 9y ago
    So if an anti-abortion doctor wants to go work at an abortion clinic and express his or her views in the workplace, then you feel he or she shouldn't be allowed to be fired for expressing those views? Surely that would impact the business. What if a nazi wants to go work with a black rights group? Or a male sexist wants to work in a women's shelter? Adding politics to the list of protected classes would be the end of protected classes.
billysielu 9y ago
The whitelist is the problem (because it's white of course), so make it a blacklist instead.