Just because they're not currently very good at what they do doesn't preclude them from being one, especially when many of these groups self identify as neo-Naz

Just because they're not currently very good at what they do doesn't preclude them from being one, especially when many of these groups self identify as neo-Nazis. It's the same intent with the same goal. The Nazi's in Germany in the early 1930's were pretty much a bunch of screw-ups when they started. Many Germans at the time regarded them as fringe "lunatics", but we all know how that turned out.