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Correct. Pardon the source but I just searched for "antifa knife" and copied the first link: http://bigleaguepolitics.com/man-stabbed-antifa-mob-outside-home-n

Correct. Pardon the source but I just searched for "antifa knife" and copied the first link: http://bigleaguepolitics.com/man-stabbed-antifa-mob-outside-home-not-condemning-nazis-hard-enough/ http://bigleaguepolitics.com/man-stabbed-antifa-mob-outside-... The alt-left is getting bolder and more dangerous.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
So anyone who visits a far-left or far-right political website should have their identities unmasked to the federal government?
pmiller2 9y ago
Don't refer to these morons committing violent acts in the name of protest as "alt-left." It does nothing but legitimize them, much as the moniker "alt-right" legitimizes white supremacists. There is a time and a place for violent protest/revolution, but we're nowhere near there yet.
- pdx 9y ago
  > much as the moniker "alt-right" legitimizes white > supremacists. Actually, alt-right was coined as a term to differentiate people who adhere to the traditional republican/libertarian views about personal liberty and small government from the neo-conservatives such as Romney, McCain, Graham, and others who push so strongly for nation-building and big government. The collection of people that are drawn to the ideal of small-government and liberty is larger than the subset you describe.
  - openasocket 9y ago
    Source? The Southern Poverty Law Center says it was coined by Richard Spencer to describe a white nationalist political ideology: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideo...
    - pdx 9y ago
      The Southern Poverty Law Center is notoriously biased [1] against any non-progressive ideology, which includes alt-right and libertarian ideals. If this is indeed their actual opinion, it is wrong. I suspect even they know it is not true. Alt-right traces is lineage back to Ron Paul and the tea-party. [1] http://www.dailywire.com/news/8967/7-things-you-need-know-about-southern-poverty-law-aaron-bandler#exit-modal http://www.dailywire.com/news/8967/7-things-you-need-know-ab...
      - openasocket 9y ago
        Do you have any sources to back up your claim the the term "Alt-right" can be traced back to Ron Paul and the tea party? Wikipedia says the first usage of the term "alternative right" was by Paul Gottfried in 2008 (http://forward.com/news/national/348372/meet-the-jewish-paleoconservative-who-coined-the-term-alternative-right/ http://forward.com/news/national/348372/meet-the-jewish-pale...) It also says that the first usage of the contracted form "alt-right" was by Richard Spencer. https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/alt-right-a-primer-about-the-new-white-supremacy https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/alt-ri... http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-alt-right-for-real http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-... and https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-dona... quote Spencer as claiming to be the person who coined the term. And there's like a dozen other citations on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right Where are your sources?
1_2__4 9y ago
And the alt-right is getting dumber. Seriously, "bigleaguepolitics.com"? Are you going to peddle Seth Rich conspiracy theories now too? Because that's also on their front page.
- sergiotapia 9y ago
  Like I said, I just searched on twitter for the knife attack and clicked the first link. Disregard the source. Was this man not knifed?
  - monorepoman 9y ago
    We don't know. Just because some guy posts a picture of a knife wound and claims to have been jumped, that doesn't mean anything. You may recall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax
  - FireBeyond 9y ago
    Quite possibly "not"? https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS753US753&q=sam+wormer+stabbed https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS753US753&q=sam... I find it ... odd that not one mainstream media source is in the results there. For a stabbing... Not even a local paper. Not even Fox News. Just Infowars, Breitbart, AboveTopSecret, all right wing and/or conspiracy sites.
mattnewton 9y ago
Be careful what you read on the internet. A lot of what I have seen is made to intentionally deceive. For example: http://www.snopes.com/antifa-member-photographed-beating-police-officer/ http://www.snopes.com/antifa-member-photographed-beating-pol... There are enough nutjobs on both sides without making them up. Not defending violence in any form.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago

So anyone who visits a far-left or far-right political website should have their identities unmasked to the federal government?

pmiller2 9y ago

Don't refer to these morons committing violent acts in the name of protest as "alt-left." It does nothing but legitimize them, much as the moniker "alt-right" legitimizes white supremacists. There is a time and a place for violent protest/revolution, but we're nowhere near there yet.

pdx 9y ago
> much as the moniker "alt-right" legitimizes white > supremacists. Actually, alt-right was coined as a term to differentiate people who adhere to the traditional republican/libertarian views about personal liberty and small government from the neo-conservatives such as Romney, McCain, Graham, and others who push so strongly for nation-building and big government. The collection of people that are drawn to the ideal of small-government and liberty is larger than the subset you describe.
- openasocket 9y ago
  Source? The Southern Poverty Law Center says it was coined by Richard Spencer to describe a white nationalist political ideology: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideo...
  - pdx 9y ago
    The Southern Poverty Law Center is notoriously biased [1] against any non-progressive ideology, which includes alt-right and libertarian ideals. If this is indeed their actual opinion, it is wrong. I suspect even they know it is not true. Alt-right traces is lineage back to Ron Paul and the tea-party. [1] http://www.dailywire.com/news/8967/7-things-you-need-know-about-southern-poverty-law-aaron-bandler#exit-modal http://www.dailywire.com/news/8967/7-things-you-need-know-ab...
    - openasocket 9y ago
      Do you have any sources to back up your claim the the term "Alt-right" can be traced back to Ron Paul and the tea party? Wikipedia says the first usage of the term "alternative right" was by Paul Gottfried in 2008 (http://forward.com/news/national/348372/meet-the-jewish-paleoconservative-who-coined-the-term-alternative-right/ http://forward.com/news/national/348372/meet-the-jewish-pale...) It also says that the first usage of the contracted form "alt-right" was by Richard Spencer. https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/alt-right-a-primer-about-the-new-white-supremacy https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/alt-ri... http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-alt-right-for-real http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-... and https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-dona... quote Spencer as claiming to be the person who coined the term. And there's like a dozen other citations on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right Where are your sources?

1_2__4 9y ago

And the alt-right is getting dumber. Seriously, "bigleaguepolitics.com"? Are you going to peddle Seth Rich conspiracy theories now too? Because that's also on their front page.

sergiotapia 9y ago
Like I said, I just searched on twitter for the knife attack and clicked the first link. Disregard the source. Was this man not knifed?
- monorepoman 9y ago
  We don't know. Just because some guy posts a picture of a knife wound and claims to have been jumped, that doesn't mean anything. You may recall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax
- FireBeyond 9y ago
  Quite possibly "not"? https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS753US753&q=sam+wormer+stabbed https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS753US753&q=sam... I find it ... odd that not one mainstream media source is in the results there. For a stabbing... Not even a local paper. Not even Fox News. Just Infowars, Breitbart, AboveTopSecret, all right wing and/or conspiracy sites.

mattnewton 9y ago

Be careful what you read on the internet. A lot of what I have seen is made to intentionally deceive. For example: http://www.snopes.com/antifa-member-photographed-beating-police-officer/ http://www.snopes.com/antifa-member-photographed-beating-pol... There are enough nutjobs on both sides without making them up. Not defending violence in any form.