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Hacker News: How's that work?

18 points by Mz 9y ago

Tomte 9y ago
I think the downvote doesn't count when you're also replying to the comment. Is that so or am I mistaken? And I don't know what both flagging and downvoting a comment really does. The downvote makes it greyer, and then the flagging makes it less grey again, so who knows?
DrScump 9y ago
Here are the guidelines. If you have never read them, read them. Wait for it... It is okay to down vote to express disagreement. The guidelines don't say that. Have up/downvotes become a popularity contest now? Has HN become Reddit Orange? I downvote for one of two reasons: 1) a source or reference is misquoted or made-up altogether. 2) a clear error in reasoning was written (e.g. misinterpretation of the submission of of a stated source). I don't downvote out of simple disagreement. Indeed, I WANT to see well-reasoned arguments that I may disagree with at first glance. Am I alone in this?
combatentropy 9y ago
The article has some insight into the ranking formulae of stories and comments --- or maybe they're just educated guesses. It goes back and forth about whether your karma affects the starting height of your comment. I myself first thought that your comment appeared at the top of the thread for a flash, that rank was briefly boosted by novelty. Then I came to believe that it first popped to the top just for your sake, so that you can see it easily right after posting it. As soon as you reload the page, your comment goes down to its rightful place. Or maybe I'm wrong again. Need to read the source code: https://github.com/wting/hackernews https://github.com/wting/hackernews. And I didn't know about the rare bird known as the vouch button. The best part about the article is that it encourages you to read Hacker News's own guidelines, https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. It's a great recipe. So much discussion, here and on other sites, would be better if everyone said the exact same thing minus any personal attack. From the guidelines: > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > E.g. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" > can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." > Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article. > "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to > "The article mentions that."

18 points by Mz 9y ago

I think the downvote doesn't count when you're also replying to the comment. Is that so or am I mistaken? And I don't know what both flagging and downvoting a comment really does. The downvote makes it greyer, and then the flagging makes it less grey again, so who knows?

DrScump 9y ago

Here are the guidelines. If you have never read them, read them. Wait for it... It is okay to down vote to express disagreement. The guidelines don't say that. Have up/downvotes become a popularity contest now? Has HN become Reddit Orange? I downvote for one of two reasons: 1) a source or reference is misquoted or made-up altogether. 2) a clear error in reasoning was written (e.g. misinterpretation of the submission of of a stated source). I don't downvote out of simple disagreement. Indeed, I WANT to see well-reasoned arguments that I may disagree with at first glance. Am I alone in this?

combatentropy 9y ago

The article has some insight into the ranking formulae of stories and comments --- or maybe they're just educated guesses. It goes back and forth about whether your karma affects the starting height of your comment. I myself first thought that your comment appeared at the top of the thread for a flash, that rank was briefly boosted by novelty. Then I came to believe that it first popped to the top just for your sake, so that you can see it easily right after posting it. As soon as you reload the page, your comment goes down to its rightful place. Or maybe I'm wrong again. Need to read the source code: https://github.com/wting/hackernews https://github.com/wting/hackernews. And I didn't know about the rare bird known as the vouch button. The best part about the article is that it encourages you to read Hacker News's own guidelines, https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. It's a great recipe. So much discussion, here and on other sites, would be better if everyone said the exact same thing minus any personal attack. From the guidelines: > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > E.g. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" > can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." > Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article. > "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to > "The article mentions that."