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I really don't get the downvotes. This isn't just a right-leaning political group, these are neo-nazis, complete with the salute, the swastikas, the whole nine

by Frondo 9y ago

I really don't get the downvotes. This isn't just a right-leaning political group, these are neo-nazis, complete with the salute, the swastikas, the whole nine yards. Why would anyone want to go to bat for them? We fought a war against this ideology. We've seen where it goes.

RandVal30142 9y ago
Some people here seem to have a real hard-on for white power. They've been spree downvoting critical & informative commentary on the topic.
- reitanqild 9y ago
  Eh, before i get too popular there are two sides the recent trainwreck threads. Not everything has been very enlightened on either side, sadly.
  - RandVal30142 9y ago
    I'm not commenting on the trainwreck that is the open commentary(ha), but specifically the spree downvotes on inane or just plain informative comments. Haven't really seen activity like that in other threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. But this low volume thread apparently has a queue of users ready to knock down people responding to an inquiry about what Daily Stormer is..
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      I see, you are talking about this particular thread. Lets hope the mods can take a look at it and remove their downvote privilege. threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. Not sure if I understood you but new users cannot downvote.
      - RandVal30142 9y ago
        >new users cannot downvote Huh. No you didnt misunderstand me I think I was just mistaken in what new users could do. Is there a known age threshold when voting kicks in?
        reitanqild 9y ago
        500 points or something. Before undown was available my plan was to create a new sockpuppet every time my last one crossed 500. That way I wouldn't have to worry about accidentally downvoting anyone. The scary thing about this is there are a number of old matured accounts in good standing that seems to be defending nazis. It might just be people with stronger/different principles than me though.
- AnimalMuppet 9y ago
  A bunch of the downvotes have nothing to do with liking white power. Rather, they have something to do with disliking calls for censorship, imprisonment, and mandatory psychological treatment. (The last one in particular makes me think of the USSR.)
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    Have my upvote. This concerns me as well and as much as I hate nazi ideology I'm fairly sure any special rules will be abused by politicians and media. (For practical examples just look at how "hate speech" is thrown around to silence people who never argumented for hate.)
reitanqild 9y ago
Hehe, I'll take my downvotes here with a smile. Being hated by actual nazis should be an honour to all of us. Edit: and don’t worry about yours either. They'll be fixed as long as enough decent people visit this thread :-)
DanBC 9y ago
Forced psychiatric treatment for political extremists is pretty disturbing.
- reitanqild 9y ago
  Agree. I'm not sure if I would stand for that in the long run... but not because I don’t think it would be useful here but because it would be abused left and right.
clowd 9y ago
I'm not downvoting, but I also won't upvote a comment which calls for imprisoning people for their speech or beliefs. I suspect some of the downvotes are a response to that suggestion. In the US, it's not illegal to be a hateful, closed-minded asshole. The rest of us might shun you, but you shouldn't go to prison for it.
- reitanqild 9y ago
  Well. Wrongthink like the recent google memo. Should go to prison: no Being generally annoying. Should go to prison: no Conspiracy to genocide. Should go to prison: yes
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AnimalMuppet 9y ago
> Glorifying nationalsocialism isn't "wrongthink" - it is conspiracy to genocide. No. Actively planning genocide is conspiracy to genocide. Glorifying national socialism is wrong-headed, stupid, morally bankrupt, and flat-out evil, but it's not yet conspiracy to genocide.
- reitanqild 9y ago
  That is a thin line if anything is. When you're glorifying and trying to restart a regime that has killed a few million people and only didn't kill more people necause they failed that is veeery close IMO.

by Frondo 9y ago

RandVal30142 9y ago

Some people here seem to have a real hard-on for white power. They've been spree downvoting critical & informative commentary on the topic.

reitanqild 9y ago
Eh, before i get too popular there are two sides the recent trainwreck threads. Not everything has been very enlightened on either side, sadly.
- RandVal30142 9y ago
  I'm not commenting on the trainwreck that is the open commentary(ha), but specifically the spree downvotes on inane or just plain informative comments. Haven't really seen activity like that in other threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. But this low volume thread apparently has a queue of users ready to knock down people responding to an inquiry about what Daily Stormer is..
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    I see, you are talking about this particular thread. Lets hope the mods can take a look at it and remove their downvote privilege. threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. Not sure if I understood you but new users cannot downvote.
    - RandVal30142 9y ago
      >new users cannot downvote Huh. No you didnt misunderstand me I think I was just mistaken in what new users could do. Is there a known age threshold when voting kicks in?
      - reitanqild 9y ago
        500 points or something. Before undown was available my plan was to create a new sockpuppet every time my last one crossed 500. That way I wouldn't have to worry about accidentally downvoting anyone. The scary thing about this is there are a number of old matured accounts in good standing that seems to be defending nazis. It might just be people with stronger/different principles than me though.
AnimalMuppet 9y ago
A bunch of the downvotes have nothing to do with liking white power. Rather, they have something to do with disliking calls for censorship, imprisonment, and mandatory psychological treatment. (The last one in particular makes me think of the USSR.)
- reitanqild 9y ago
  Have my upvote. This concerns me as well and as much as I hate nazi ideology I'm fairly sure any special rules will be abused by politicians and media. (For practical examples just look at how "hate speech" is thrown around to silence people who never argumented for hate.)

reitanqild 9y ago

Hehe, I'll take my downvotes here with a smile. Being hated by actual nazis should be an honour to all of us. Edit: and don’t worry about yours either. They'll be fixed as long as enough decent people visit this thread :-)

DanBC 9y ago

Forced psychiatric treatment for political extremists is pretty disturbing.

reitanqild 9y ago
Agree. I'm not sure if I would stand for that in the long run... but not because I don’t think it would be useful here but because it would be abused left and right.

clowd 9y ago

I'm not downvoting, but I also won't upvote a comment which calls for imprisoning people for their speech or beliefs. I suspect some of the downvotes are a response to that suggestion. In the US, it's not illegal to be a hateful, closed-minded asshole. The rest of us might shun you, but you shouldn't go to prison for it.

reitanqild 9y ago
Well. Wrongthink like the recent google memo. Should go to prison: no Being generally annoying. Should go to prison: no Conspiracy to genocide. Should go to prison: yes
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AnimalMuppet 9y ago

> Glorifying nationalsocialism isn't "wrongthink" - it is conspiracy to genocide. No. Actively planning genocide is conspiracy to genocide. Glorifying national socialism is wrong-headed, stupid, morally bankrupt, and flat-out evil, but it's not yet conspiracy to genocide.

reitanqild 9y ago
That is a thin line if anything is. When you're glorifying and trying to restart a regime that has killed a few million people and only didn't kill more people necause they failed that is veeery close IMO.