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I wonder if, in the future, being able not to be on any social media will be an higher class privilege.

by akeck 9y ago

ForRealsies 9y ago
Agreed. Physical privacy (gated communities, SFH's) have long been a higher class privilege. If you're elite enough you can buy part of a Hawaiian island.
- Steer 9y ago
  Would the future then not hold social media that were invite-only in some way?
  - gasof 9y ago
    It's already there, it's called "an email server".
    - lostlogin 9y ago
      It's the 'reply all' button that ruined email. The other problems are solved by adequate filtering.
  - seanp2k2 9y ago
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/4/26/15407144/exclusive-social-media-the-league-best-of-all-worlds-rich-kids https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2...
- yojo 9y ago
  A large part - 97% per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai
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avaer 9y ago
We're already there. You can get a lot more accomplished by not spending time on Facebook. But for many people, vicarious living and social media validation are some of the few things that bring them joy in their lives.
fosco 9y ago
I wondered this awhile back. albeit I took it in a different direction... I think that social media already gives you opportunities to do things when you login with your social media account. I think in the future (and probably already happening) you get discounts for sharing your social media data and that higher classes (or wealthier people) can afford to not share that information which is why they will not use it. I do not think it will get to the point like it did in 15 million merits (see Black Mirror episode) but something along those lines, specifically money allows you to save time and 'purchase' privacy by not having to use these things that require your privacy in order to use because you can afford not to. note: I deleted my facebook in 2008. I lost touch with a number of people, but the time I saved has been immeasurable.
- drieddust 9y ago
  This is already happening. I have seen one media company pitching the same idea. They argue data is already sold. They want to make the process transparent and two way so when you share you get credits like things like streaming music etc. Edit: minor grammar
- sogen 9y ago
  I'd say that more than 1 company would be delighted to implement the black mirror episode: live in a box, 1-click order stuff delivered to your box, Pay if you Do Not want... some stuff.
spacelizard 9y ago
The real privilege that derives from this is being able to live without being bombarded with advertising. To be able to have a meaningful conversation with a business that isn't predicated on them trying to analyze your behavior as part of a demographic group. To not be bucketed into a predefined economic segment based on your life experiences.
kome 9y ago
Am I lower or upper class by not being on Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram or Twitter? I am on last.fm tho ;) but not with my real name.
- turc1656 9y ago
  You sound awesome and are, in this regard, better than me. I never had WhatsApp, Instagram, or Twitter, but I still have my Facebook account. However, I am not active. I log in only when I receive a message or some alert I actually care about (which is exceedingly rare these days). I see no reason to actually delete my account since I haven't posted anything in years and have barely communicated privately on the platform.
- bitL 9y ago
  You are avant-garde.
lostlogin 9y ago
Professional bodies and company information getting posted only on Facebook is the issue I have.
olympus 9y ago
I think it already is. I recently deleted my FB and Twitter accounts. I had to keep my LinkedIn account because a recruiter told me that if I didn't have at least some online persona then I was weird and wouldn't be hired. I guess I'm not rich enough to delete all my social media.
- turc1656 9y ago
  Fascinating that a recruiter actually told you that. I wonder if it's actually true or if the recruiter was saying that because...they are a recruiter and having people on LinkedIn makes their life easier.
  - olympus 9y ago
    To clarify, the recruiter is more specifically a transition specialist for military members and usually finds jobs in project management. Finding a first job out of the military is a little different because you're old but don't have the same work history as your competition. Employers are less likely to take a risk on your non-standard background if you seem like a "wierdo."
  - glitcher 9y ago
    Do not underestimate the lengths recruiters (or anyone in charge of hiring for that matter) will go to in order to paint a picture of who they think you are solely based on the social media content they are able to find (or not find) on you. I have a common name, and have been passed over for job opportunities because someone else in my city with my same name at one point had a facebook account full of obscenities.
  - Florin_Andrei 9y ago
    It could become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If all recruiters think the same way...
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  That's BS, I haven't had a LinkedIn account in ages and have not had any trouble when on the job market. I have a Twitter account, but it's dormant - I should probably just delete it, actually...

I wonder if, in the future, being able not to be on any social media will be an higher class privilege.

by akeck 9y ago

I wonder if, in the future, being able not to be on any social media will be an higher class privilege.

Agreed. Physical privacy (gated communities, SFH's) have long been a higher class privilege. If you're elite enough you can buy part of a Hawaiian island.

Steer 9y ago
Would the future then not hold social media that were invite-only in some way?
- gasof 9y ago
  It's already there, it's called "an email server".
  - lostlogin 9y ago
    It's the 'reply all' button that ruined email. The other problems are solved by adequate filtering.
- seanp2k2 9y ago
  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/4/26/15407144/exclusive-social-media-the-league-best-of-all-worlds-rich-kids https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2...
yojo 9y ago
A large part - 97% per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai

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avaer 9y ago

We're already there. You can get a lot more accomplished by not spending time on Facebook. But for many people, vicarious living and social media validation are some of the few things that bring them joy in their lives.

fosco 9y ago

I wondered this awhile back. albeit I took it in a different direction... I think that social media already gives you opportunities to do things when you login with your social media account. I think in the future (and probably already happening) you get discounts for sharing your social media data and that higher classes (or wealthier people) can afford to not share that information which is why they will not use it. I do not think it will get to the point like it did in 15 million merits (see Black Mirror episode) but something along those lines, specifically money allows you to save time and 'purchase' privacy by not having to use these things that require your privacy in order to use because you can afford not to. note: I deleted my facebook in 2008. I lost touch with a number of people, but the time I saved has been immeasurable.

drieddust 9y ago
This is already happening. I have seen one media company pitching the same idea. They argue data is already sold. They want to make the process transparent and two way so when you share you get credits like things like streaming music etc. Edit: minor grammar
sogen 9y ago
I'd say that more than 1 company would be delighted to implement the black mirror episode: live in a box, 1-click order stuff delivered to your box, Pay if you Do Not want... some stuff.

spacelizard 9y ago

The real privilege that derives from this is being able to live without being bombarded with advertising. To be able to have a meaningful conversation with a business that isn't predicated on them trying to analyze your behavior as part of a demographic group. To not be bucketed into a predefined economic segment based on your life experiences.

kome 9y ago

Am I lower or upper class by not being on Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram or Twitter? I am on last.fm tho ;) but not with my real name.

turc1656 9y ago
You sound awesome and are, in this regard, better than me. I never had WhatsApp, Instagram, or Twitter, but I still have my Facebook account. However, I am not active. I log in only when I receive a message or some alert I actually care about (which is exceedingly rare these days). I see no reason to actually delete my account since I haven't posted anything in years and have barely communicated privately on the platform.
bitL 9y ago
You are avant-garde.

lostlogin 9y ago

Professional bodies and company information getting posted only on Facebook is the issue I have.

olympus 9y ago

I think it already is. I recently deleted my FB and Twitter accounts. I had to keep my LinkedIn account because a recruiter told me that if I didn't have at least some online persona then I was weird and wouldn't be hired. I guess I'm not rich enough to delete all my social media.

turc1656 9y ago
Fascinating that a recruiter actually told you that. I wonder if it's actually true or if the recruiter was saying that because...they are a recruiter and having people on LinkedIn makes their life easier.
- olympus 9y ago
  To clarify, the recruiter is more specifically a transition specialist for military members and usually finds jobs in project management. Finding a first job out of the military is a little different because you're old but don't have the same work history as your competition. Employers are less likely to take a risk on your non-standard background if you seem like a "wierdo."
- glitcher 9y ago
  Do not underestimate the lengths recruiters (or anyone in charge of hiring for that matter) will go to in order to paint a picture of who they think you are solely based on the social media content they are able to find (or not find) on you. I have a common name, and have been passed over for job opportunities because someone else in my city with my same name at one point had a facebook account full of obscenities.
- Florin_Andrei 9y ago
  It could become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If all recruiters think the same way...
Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
That's BS, I haven't had a LinkedIn account in ages and have not had any trouble when on the job market. I have a Twitter account, but it's dormant - I should probably just delete it, actually...