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The site is a hate site for neo-Nazis. In the wake of the recent Nazi march, they were kicked off their previous registrar (GoDaddy), then off Google, and sett

The site is a hate site for neo-Nazis. In the wake of the recent Nazi march, they were kicked off their previous registrar (GoDaddy), then off Google, and settled on Cloudflare. A lot of folks (myself included) assumed that CF would allow them to remain, as they have with many sites in the past. However, it appears that something has convinced them that it's not worth it to be the facilitator of a mouthpiece for genocide.

reitanqild 9y ago
Agree: shut them down! Edit: or maybe even better: log access and visit every contributor at home. Glorifying nationalsocialism isn't "wrongthink" - it is conspiracy to genocide. I normally try to be civil. And I'm normally defending free speak including - of course in my opinion - Trump supporters and gamergate even if I don’t like Trump and don’t care about GG. However anyone who glorifies nazism obviously either should be imprisoned (if necessary you need to make the missing laws [0], some European countries have them already) or sent to mandatory psychological follow ups the next few years in case they are just very dumb and uninformed and not necessarily evil. I guess everyone who cares about history knows we fought a world war to stop this cancer. [0]: something about conspiracy to genocide or something.
- Frondo 9y ago
  I really don't get the downvotes. This isn't just a right-leaning political group, these are neo-nazis, complete with the salute, the swastikas, the whole nine yards. Why would anyone want to go to bat for them? We fought a war against this ideology. We've seen where it goes.
  - RandVal30142 9y ago
    Some people here seem to have a real hard-on for white power. They've been spree downvoting critical & informative commentary on the topic.
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      Eh, before i get too popular there are two sides the recent trainwreck threads. Not everything has been very enlightened on either side, sadly.
      - RandVal30142 9y ago
        I'm not commenting on the trainwreck that is the open commentary(ha), but specifically the spree downvotes on inane or just plain informative comments. Haven't really seen activity like that in other threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. But this low volume thread apparently has a queue of users ready to knock down people responding to an inquiry about what Daily Stormer is..
        reitanqild 9y ago
        I see, you are talking about this particular thread. Lets hope the mods can take a look at it and remove their downvote privilege. threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. Not sure if I understood you but new users cannot downvote.
        RandVal30142 9y ago
        >new users cannot downvote Huh. No you didnt misunderstand me I think I was just mistaken in what new users could do. Is there a known age threshold when voting kicks in?
        reitanqild 9y ago
        500 points or something. Before undown was available my plan was to create a new sockpuppet every time my last one crossed 500. That way I wouldn't have to worry about accidentally downvoting anyone. The scary thing about this is there are a number of old matured accounts in good standing that seems to be defending nazis. It might just be people with stronger/different principles than me though.
    - 9y ago
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    Hehe, I'll take my downvotes here with a smile. Being hated by actual nazis should be an honour to all of us. Edit: and don’t worry about yours either. They'll be fixed as long as enough decent people visit this thread :-)
  - DanBC 9y ago
    Forced psychiatric treatment for political extremists is pretty disturbing.
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      Agree. I'm not sure if I would stand for that in the long run... but not because I don’t think it would be useful here but because it would be abused left and right.
  - clowd 9y ago
    I'm not downvoting, but I also won't upvote a comment which calls for imprisoning people for their speech or beliefs. I suspect some of the downvotes are a response to that suggestion. In the US, it's not illegal to be a hateful, closed-minded asshole. The rest of us might shun you, but you shouldn't go to prison for it.
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      Well. Wrongthink like the recent google memo. Should go to prison: no Being generally annoying. Should go to prison: no Conspiracy to genocide. Should go to prison: yes
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  - AnimalMuppet 9y ago
    > Glorifying nationalsocialism isn't "wrongthink" - it is conspiracy to genocide. No. Actively planning genocide is conspiracy to genocide. Glorifying national socialism is wrong-headed, stupid, morally bankrupt, and flat-out evil, but it's not yet conspiracy to genocide.
    - reitanqild 9y ago
      That is a thin line if anything is. When you're glorifying and trying to restart a regime that has killed a few million people and only didn't kill more people necause they failed that is veeery close IMO.

reitanqild 9y ago

Agree: shut them down! Edit: or maybe even better: log access and visit every contributor at home. Glorifying nationalsocialism isn't "wrongthink" - it is conspiracy to genocide. I normally try to be civil. And I'm normally defending free speak including - of course in my opinion - Trump supporters and gamergate even if I don’t like Trump and don’t care about GG. However anyone who glorifies nazism obviously either should be imprisoned (if necessary you need to make the missing laws [0], some European countries have them already) or sent to mandatory psychological follow ups the next few years in case they are just very dumb and uninformed and not necessarily evil. I guess everyone who cares about history knows we fought a world war to stop this cancer. [0]: something about conspiracy to genocide or something.

Frondo 9y ago
I really don't get the downvotes. This isn't just a right-leaning political group, these are neo-nazis, complete with the salute, the swastikas, the whole nine yards. Why would anyone want to go to bat for them? We fought a war against this ideology. We've seen where it goes.
- RandVal30142 9y ago
  Some people here seem to have a real hard-on for white power. They've been spree downvoting critical & informative commentary on the topic.
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    Eh, before i get too popular there are two sides the recent trainwreck threads. Not everything has been very enlightened on either side, sadly.
    - RandVal30142 9y ago
      I'm not commenting on the trainwreck that is the open commentary(ha), but specifically the spree downvotes on inane or just plain informative comments. Haven't really seen activity like that in other threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. But this low volume thread apparently has a queue of users ready to knock down people responding to an inquiry about what Daily Stormer is..
      - reitanqild 9y ago
        I see, you are talking about this particular thread. Lets hope the mods can take a look at it and remove their downvote privilege. threads unless they are bringing in a lot of out-of-site new users. Not sure if I understood you but new users cannot downvote.
        RandVal30142 9y ago
        >new users cannot downvote Huh. No you didnt misunderstand me I think I was just mistaken in what new users could do. Is there a known age threshold when voting kicks in?
        reitanqild 9y ago
        500 points or something. Before undown was available my plan was to create a new sockpuppet every time my last one crossed 500. That way I wouldn't have to worry about accidentally downvoting anyone. The scary thing about this is there are a number of old matured accounts in good standing that seems to be defending nazis. It might just be people with stronger/different principles than me though.
  - 9y ago
- reitanqild 9y ago
  Hehe, I'll take my downvotes here with a smile. Being hated by actual nazis should be an honour to all of us. Edit: and don’t worry about yours either. They'll be fixed as long as enough decent people visit this thread :-)
- DanBC 9y ago
  Forced psychiatric treatment for political extremists is pretty disturbing.
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    Agree. I'm not sure if I would stand for that in the long run... but not because I don’t think it would be useful here but because it would be abused left and right.
- clowd 9y ago
  I'm not downvoting, but I also won't upvote a comment which calls for imprisoning people for their speech or beliefs. I suspect some of the downvotes are a response to that suggestion. In the US, it's not illegal to be a hateful, closed-minded asshole. The rest of us might shun you, but you shouldn't go to prison for it.
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    Well. Wrongthink like the recent google memo. Should go to prison: no Being generally annoying. Should go to prison: no Conspiracy to genocide. Should go to prison: yes
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- AnimalMuppet 9y ago
  > Glorifying nationalsocialism isn't "wrongthink" - it is conspiracy to genocide. No. Actively planning genocide is conspiracy to genocide. Glorifying national socialism is wrong-headed, stupid, morally bankrupt, and flat-out evil, but it's not yet conspiracy to genocide.
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    That is a thin line if anything is. When you're glorifying and trying to restart a regime that has killed a few million people and only didn't kill more people necause they failed that is veeery close IMO.