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It's really exciting to see the different components for decentralized apps come together. Bitcoin promised programmable money, and it sort of is, but Ethereum

It's really exciting to see the different components for decentralized apps come together. Bitcoin promised programmable money, and it sort of is, but Ethereum is so much more accessible (for better or for worse). With Ethereum we have decentralized compute. With IPFS we get decentralized storage. Cryptographic keys give us self-sovereign identity. Build tools like Truffle make it easy to get started (think create-react-app for Ethereum). And libraries like Zepplin are helping standardize secure patterns. And, to top it off, using web3.js we can write UIs _in the browser_ using JavaScript and the libraries we're already familiar with (Angular, React, Vue). By the way, [shameless plug], if you're a web developer and you're looking to get started programming cryptocurrency and distributed apps, I have some introductory tutorials here => https://newline.co/ https://newline.co/

csomar 9y ago
May I ask why you are asking for my email address. My first impression when someone is asking for my email to download something for "free" is that he is a lying piece of cr*p and he just wants to spam me later on.
- goodroot 9y ago
  That's cynical. If someone spent their time making quality things people enjoy, they can charge whatever currency they'd like. If that currency is an email address so that you can be contacted later in hopes of selling you paid products or earning through referrals, then that's their prerogative. It doesn't make them a _lying piece of crap_. If you use a catchall, create an address for that service. It it does something you don't like, cancel later.
  - csomar 9y ago
    I'm not disagreeing with that but a clean disclosure is missing. It's like paying for an item that you don't know the price of by putting your credit card details. I don't think you'd do that.
    - deleted 9y ago
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    - cortesoft 9y ago
      An email address is not a credit card. It isn't private information. Do you really think the amount of spam you will receive will change at all if you give one extra person your email address?
      - pavel_lishin 9y ago
        > An email address is not a credit card. It isn't private information. You don't know what email address I'm giving you; I generate single-use emails for just about everything I sign up for, so when I start getting spam for it - like I actually did about 20 minutes ago - I can go straight to the source and start asking whether they got hacked, or sold me out.
  - mnem 9y ago
    Email addresses aren't currency. Unless you sell to spammers at least.
  - pavel_lishin 9y ago
    > That's cynical. So is not trusting the Federal Wallet Inspector on the subway.
  - nicky0 9y ago
    example@example.com usually works.
- bookmarkacc 9y ago
  It takes 0 time to use a fake email
  - csomar 9y ago
    That's the sleazy part. It looks like you need an email to get a "pdf download link" but if you read the reviews a little down you'll understand that it is just another newsletter but disguised in a "course".
- jashmenn 9y ago
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  - deleted 9y ago
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  - csomar 9y ago
    > I mean, you're not wrong. So why give a 20 lines explanation of what you provide instead of correcting the error. This could have been done more cleaner: Have all the free courses available on-site. Have the purchase page available on-site too and from the free courses. Clean. Simple. No BS.
- TylerE 9y ago
  I think the old "you are the product" quote applies...
free652 9y ago
I didn't find any materials on your website? I got some email messages, wasted 5 minutes of my time.
thinbeige 9y ago
Could we agree that everyone who writes anything about crypto puts at the end of his/her post a disclaimer telling us if he/she is invested in tokens discussed in that post and if yes what is the share in their portfolio. You know, if I was invested in eg IPFS I would post night and day in all forums subtle not too obvious hints how great IPFS is (pump) and then I would dump them. Or to be clear, any discussion about crypto might be motivated by financial incentives which makes a meaningful technical discussion quite hard. Let's start with @jashmenn, are you invested in Ethereum and IPFS? Edit: downvoters please explain why
- kaffeemitsahne 9y ago
  It's not necessary when you consider the much simpler alternative: just assume that everybody is lying for their own profit.
- skewart 9y ago
  > Edit: downvoters please explain why I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that you would suggest any ICO investor might let their financial position influence the way they talk about cryptocurrencies. These people are visionary investors who selflessly pour their resources into ICOs, not mere speculators looking to make a quick buck on a greater fool. /s You make a really good point. I'm genuinely excited about blockchains and cryptocurrencies, but it's so hard to find writing about it that isn't thinly veiled asset pumping.
- dmix 9y ago
  > You know, if I was invested in eg IPFS I would post night and day in all forums subtle not too obvious hints how great IPFS is (pump) and then I would dump them. Credibility is much more apparent than you may think on sites like HN/Reddit. Shameless self-promotion without any substance won't get you far. Fortunately software doesn't live or die on name recognition via random posts on social media but on whether people actually find it useful. If this was someone's plan to make money on their investments they are wasting their time. Unless, maybe, they are a minor celebrity with a lot of reach. Disclaimers on whether you own some tokens in a company is of marginal interest to me (authoring news stories is another matter), I'll judge the value of it by the proposition being made. Otherwise I'm pretty sure anyone who's been on the internet for a long enough time knows better than to take any recommendation at face value from comment threads. And being an investor is a sign of confidence, it doesn't automatically mean you are deluded by the idea or are only motivated in pumping it up for a cheap profit. Either way if someone's plan is to engage in pump and dump schemes they'll always be at a high risk of being in a race to the bottom trying to exit before everyone else with the same half-baked idea of getting rich quick. It's not as clever as you make it out to be. There is always a far higher probability that they were the actual 'bigger fool' in any scheme than they people they hoped to recruit.
keymone 9y ago
You don't get decentralized compute with ethereum.

csomar 9y ago

May I ask why you are asking for my email address. My first impression when someone is asking for my email to download something for "free" is that he is a lying piece of cr*p and he just wants to spam me later on.

goodroot 9y ago
That's cynical. If someone spent their time making quality things people enjoy, they can charge whatever currency they'd like. If that currency is an email address so that you can be contacted later in hopes of selling you paid products or earning through referrals, then that's their prerogative. It doesn't make them a _lying piece of crap_. If you use a catchall, create an address for that service. It it does something you don't like, cancel later.
- csomar 9y ago
  I'm not disagreeing with that but a clean disclosure is missing. It's like paying for an item that you don't know the price of by putting your credit card details. I don't think you'd do that.
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]
  - cortesoft 9y ago
    An email address is not a credit card. It isn't private information. Do you really think the amount of spam you will receive will change at all if you give one extra person your email address?
    - pavel_lishin 9y ago
      > An email address is not a credit card. It isn't private information. You don't know what email address I'm giving you; I generate single-use emails for just about everything I sign up for, so when I start getting spam for it - like I actually did about 20 minutes ago - I can go straight to the source and start asking whether they got hacked, or sold me out.
- mnem 9y ago
  Email addresses aren't currency. Unless you sell to spammers at least.
- pavel_lishin 9y ago
  > That's cynical. So is not trusting the Federal Wallet Inspector on the subway.
- nicky0 9y ago
  example@example.com usually works.
bookmarkacc 9y ago
It takes 0 time to use a fake email
- csomar 9y ago
  That's the sleazy part. It looks like you need an email to get a "pdf download link" but if you read the reviews a little down you'll understand that it is just another newsletter but disguised in a "course".
jashmenn 9y ago
[redacted]
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
- csomar 9y ago
  > I mean, you're not wrong. So why give a 20 lines explanation of what you provide instead of correcting the error. This could have been done more cleaner: Have all the free courses available on-site. Have the purchase page available on-site too and from the free courses. Clean. Simple. No BS.
TylerE 9y ago
I think the old "you are the product" quote applies...

free652 9y ago

I didn't find any materials on your website? I got some email messages, wasted 5 minutes of my time.

thinbeige 9y ago

Could we agree that everyone who writes anything about crypto puts at the end of his/her post a disclaimer telling us if he/she is invested in tokens discussed in that post and if yes what is the share in their portfolio. You know, if I was invested in eg IPFS I would post night and day in all forums subtle not too obvious hints how great IPFS is (pump) and then I would dump them. Or to be clear, any discussion about crypto might be motivated by financial incentives which makes a meaningful technical discussion quite hard. Let's start with @jashmenn, are you invested in Ethereum and IPFS? Edit: downvoters please explain why

kaffeemitsahne 9y ago
It's not necessary when you consider the much simpler alternative: just assume that everybody is lying for their own profit.
skewart 9y ago
> Edit: downvoters please explain why I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that you would suggest any ICO investor might let their financial position influence the way they talk about cryptocurrencies. These people are visionary investors who selflessly pour their resources into ICOs, not mere speculators looking to make a quick buck on a greater fool. /s You make a really good point. I'm genuinely excited about blockchains and cryptocurrencies, but it's so hard to find writing about it that isn't thinly veiled asset pumping.
dmix 9y ago
> You know, if I was invested in eg IPFS I would post night and day in all forums subtle not too obvious hints how great IPFS is (pump) and then I would dump them. Credibility is much more apparent than you may think on sites like HN/Reddit. Shameless self-promotion without any substance won't get you far. Fortunately software doesn't live or die on name recognition via random posts on social media but on whether people actually find it useful. If this was someone's plan to make money on their investments they are wasting their time. Unless, maybe, they are a minor celebrity with a lot of reach. Disclaimers on whether you own some tokens in a company is of marginal interest to me (authoring news stories is another matter), I'll judge the value of it by the proposition being made. Otherwise I'm pretty sure anyone who's been on the internet for a long enough time knows better than to take any recommendation at face value from comment threads. And being an investor is a sign of confidence, it doesn't automatically mean you are deluded by the idea or are only motivated in pumping it up for a cheap profit. Either way if someone's plan is to engage in pump and dump schemes they'll always be at a high risk of being in a race to the bottom trying to exit before everyone else with the same half-baked idea of getting rich quick. It's not as clever as you make it out to be. There is always a far higher probability that they were the actual 'bigger fool' in any scheme than they people they hoped to recruit.

keymone 9y ago

You don't get decentralized compute with ethereum.