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The Bay Area is only a place of permanence for those lucky enough to buy a house. For the rest of us, it's a place to get fantastic work experience and awesome

The Bay Area is only a place of permanence for those lucky enough to buy a house. For the rest of us, it's a place to get fantastic work experience and awesome pay. Even if you're paying $2k to rent a studio, if your take-home pay goes from $500 to $1500 you're coming out way ahead dealing with the headaches of living here. But you need to move away to truly realize those gains.

autotune 9y ago
Not to mention there are plenty of companies out here who are okay with their employees working remotely, so if you can make a 6 figure salary in a place with more arts and culture and where rent is $1500 for a luxury one bedroom downtown instead of $4500, then it's clear what the better choice would be. Also you'd be stupidly lucky to pay only $2K for a decent studio, personally I pay $2600 and that was a steal for the location (not getting stabbed at night, no homeless tents, close to MUNI), and amenities (washer/dryer).
- sebbecai 9y ago
  And then there's roommates... I used to pay $600 a month for an SF house, and did this by having 2 roommates and a live-in girlfriend. Saved enough for a house. Much comes down to delayed gratification.
  - autotune 9y ago
    And then there's the ability to sleep at night without your roommate having a conversation next your door at 2 AM, a different set of roommates that expected only you to take out the trash, another roommate that blasted tv next to your door at 2 AM, having to switch out a good roommate with someone who might also be terrible when they leave, not having your own space to work and focus on the job and hobbies, etc. etc. There is no delayed gratification when there is nothing to work towards to as you slowly go insane living with people who have no idea what it means to be "quiet" at night nor have a basic level of accountability/self-awareness, even if they say they do.
- fapjacks 9y ago
  Right. I work remote for an SF startup and I live on the beach in southern California. Literally in a house on the beach, five minutes walk to the little beachtown downtown area with bars and restaurants. And I pay a hell of a lot less than I paid when I lived in SF. Still love that city, though.
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autotune 9y ago

Not to mention there are plenty of companies out here who are okay with their employees working remotely, so if you can make a 6 figure salary in a place with more arts and culture and where rent is $1500 for a luxury one bedroom downtown instead of $4500, then it's clear what the better choice would be. Also you'd be stupidly lucky to pay only $2K for a decent studio, personally I pay $2600 and that was a steal for the location (not getting stabbed at night, no homeless tents, close to MUNI), and amenities (washer/dryer).

sebbecai 9y ago
And then there's roommates... I used to pay $600 a month for an SF house, and did this by having 2 roommates and a live-in girlfriend. Saved enough for a house. Much comes down to delayed gratification.
- autotune 9y ago
  And then there's the ability to sleep at night without your roommate having a conversation next your door at 2 AM, a different set of roommates that expected only you to take out the trash, another roommate that blasted tv next to your door at 2 AM, having to switch out a good roommate with someone who might also be terrible when they leave, not having your own space to work and focus on the job and hobbies, etc. etc. There is no delayed gratification when there is nothing to work towards to as you slowly go insane living with people who have no idea what it means to be "quiet" at night nor have a basic level of accountability/self-awareness, even if they say they do.
fapjacks 9y ago
Right. I work remote for an SF startup and I live on the beach in southern California. Literally in a house on the beach, five minutes walk to the little beachtown downtown area with bars and restaurants. And I pay a hell of a lot less than I paid when I lived in SF. Still love that city, though.

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