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You are essentially saying that about, or slightly less than, half the US is nazies? If so then either a) the label has been expanded and watered down so much i

You are essentially saying that about, or slightly less than, half the US is nazies? If so then either a) the label has been expanded and watered down so much it is essentially pointless or b) you have already lost the fight (in 33 "only" about 30% voted for Hitler) and must therefore be sitting at a minimum in house arrest.

mschuster91 9y ago
> You are essentially saying that about, or slightly less than, half the US is nazies 25% of US population voted for a known sexist and racist all while knowing that he was backed by neo-Nazis. Still, right now, 36% of US (per http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-app...) approve with Donald Trump, and thus, with a man who openly supports Nazis. In fact, I believe that the "alt-right" is the only base Donald Trump still has - just look at his economy advisors, they're jumping ship left and right because no one wants to be associated with this. > you have already lost the fight Which is something that is very well possible, I am afraid to say. I'm a German - and while our local neo-nazi party has recently lost poll rates from 25 down to 7-8%, their major positions got incorporated into the positions of our center-right parties CDU and especially CSU, and even the center-left-ish Social Democrats have shifted to the right. The neo-nazis don't need to actually win elections to succeed, they only have to succeed in getting their positions into the "mainstream".
- Torgo 9y ago
  you have to know that every single time you bring up sexist and racist that someone is going to retort, very reasonably, with Bill Clinton, and how his policies affected black people in the 90s.
  - closeparen 9y ago
    Yes, and he was part of the same system, back when it was still acceptable to be part of that system in the public discourse. This was a tragic mistake, and we're now (reasonably) not accepting such policies or the people who advocate them anymore.
dragonwriter 9y ago
Not that I agree with GP, but: > You are essentially saying that about, or slightly less than, half the US is nazies? Republicans are only a quarter of Americans. [0] > you have already lost the fight (in 33 "only" about 30% voted for Hitler) Weimar Germany had a different electoral and political structures than the US, which directly contributed to the Nazis ability to take power with that little electoral base. [0] http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

mschuster91 9y ago

> You are essentially saying that about, or slightly less than, half the US is nazies 25% of US population voted for a known sexist and racist all while knowing that he was backed by neo-Nazis. Still, right now, 36% of US (per http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-app...) approve with Donald Trump, and thus, with a man who openly supports Nazis. In fact, I believe that the "alt-right" is the only base Donald Trump still has - just look at his economy advisors, they're jumping ship left and right because no one wants to be associated with this. > you have already lost the fight Which is something that is very well possible, I am afraid to say. I'm a German - and while our local neo-nazi party has recently lost poll rates from 25 down to 7-8%, their major positions got incorporated into the positions of our center-right parties CDU and especially CSU, and even the center-left-ish Social Democrats have shifted to the right. The neo-nazis don't need to actually win elections to succeed, they only have to succeed in getting their positions into the "mainstream".

Torgo 9y ago
you have to know that every single time you bring up sexist and racist that someone is going to retort, very reasonably, with Bill Clinton, and how his policies affected black people in the 90s.
- closeparen 9y ago
  Yes, and he was part of the same system, back when it was still acceptable to be part of that system in the public discourse. This was a tragic mistake, and we're now (reasonably) not accepting such policies or the people who advocate them anymore.

dragonwriter 9y ago

Not that I agree with GP, but: > You are essentially saying that about, or slightly less than, half the US is nazies? Republicans are only a quarter of Americans. [0] > you have already lost the fight (in 33 "only" about 30% voted for Hitler) Weimar Germany had a different electoral and political structures than the US, which directly contributed to the Nazis ability to take power with that little electoral base. [0] http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx