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Reposting pieces of a comment I made yesterday: Defending freedom necessarily requires defending undesirables. Because undesirables are the people who benefit m
by Houshalter 9y ago
Reposting pieces of a comment I made yesterday: Defending freedom necessarily requires defending undesirables. Because undesirables are the people who benefit most from freedom.
Think of the history of freedom enabling technologies. Copyright violators are the first people to adopt torrents. Pedophiles are the first people to adopt tor. Hackers and drug dealers are the biggest adopters of bitcoin. Undesirable extremists are going to be the group to benefit the most from the open web. Defending any of these things requires defending their undesirable users.
Sure, it starts with the most extreme, least defensible things. Like stormfront. But you really think it will stop there? Where will the line get drawn?
What happens when the next red scare happens? Politics is like a pendulum - it goes back and forth. Just a generation ago Communism was the persecuted ideology. People on the far left were blacklisted, silenced, and discriminated against. Was that ok with you? You want it to be 10x worse next time, by establishing a culture with no tolerance of differing opinions? Because that is where we are heading.
- zimpenfish 9y ago> Defending freedom necessarily requires defending undesirables. Not when the explicitly stated goal of those undesirables is the removal of freedoms (and in some cases, life) from a larger group. Then defending freedom means defending the larger group.
- SirLJ 9y agoThe urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule...
- Houshalter 9y agoYes and you can say the same thing about communists or whatever political ideology you don't like. "They want to take our freedoms!" is a popular expression in every political ideology. There is nothing in the first amendment about losing the right to free speech if you don't support freedom yourself. Monarchism was a serious threat at the time, but the founders didn't remove the rights of monarchists.