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> Communist Why am I not surprised to see this in your profile. Communists killed many millions more than national socialists and is also a genocidal ideology

> Communist Why am I not surprised to see this in your profile. Communists killed many millions more than national socialists and is also a genocidal ideology, propagated by rhetoric. It's absurd to think you have any moral high ground over Nazis. Shouldn't your speech also be shut down according to your own logic? > I'm against free speech in certain circumstances; free speech is idealistic, for it assumes Bad Ideas will be shot down in fair public debate, and people are rational. So bottom line, you don't believe in free speech. You seem to believe a central authority must dictate which speech is free and which is not. Presumably this authority will be more rational than "the people" you mistrust to uphold a fair public debate. Absolutely horrific.

ue_ 9y ago
>Communists killed many millions more than national socialists and is also a genocidal ideology Sorry, but you're wrong. The Nazi ideology hinges on the idea of forceful removal and killing "inferior" people. The Communist ideology does not; I'm not responsible for the actions of what other people do in the name of Communist ideology. I subscribe to the works of Marx, Engels and the social anarchists (Bakunin, Kropotkin, Proudhon); if you can find any intention of genocide in there, I'll agree with you. >Shouldn't your speech also be shut down according to your own logic? No, because I'm not advocating harm or killing, only the potentially forceful removal of private property from landowners and capitalists. >You seem to believe a central authority must dictate which speech is free and which is not. No, the community should be able to regulate itself if sufficiently advanced. There may be a transitionary period in which an authority which suppresses certain speech or actions may exist, though I don't support its permanent existence.
- SirLJ 9y ago
  > No, because I'm not advocating harm or killing, only the potentially forceful removal of private property from landowners and capitalists. Unbelievable!
  - ue_ 9y ago
    What is unbelievable? That a Communist is in favour of the abolition of private property?
    - SirLJ 9y ago
      How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

ue_ 9y ago

>Communists killed many millions more than national socialists and is also a genocidal ideology Sorry, but you're wrong. The Nazi ideology hinges on the idea of forceful removal and killing "inferior" people. The Communist ideology does not; I'm not responsible for the actions of what other people do in the name of Communist ideology. I subscribe to the works of Marx, Engels and the social anarchists (Bakunin, Kropotkin, Proudhon); if you can find any intention of genocide in there, I'll agree with you. >Shouldn't your speech also be shut down according to your own logic? No, because I'm not advocating harm or killing, only the potentially forceful removal of private property from landowners and capitalists. >You seem to believe a central authority must dictate which speech is free and which is not. No, the community should be able to regulate itself if sufficiently advanced. There may be a transitionary period in which an authority which suppresses certain speech or actions may exist, though I don't support its permanent existence.

SirLJ 9y ago
> No, because I'm not advocating harm or killing, only the potentially forceful removal of private property from landowners and capitalists. Unbelievable!
- ue_ 9y ago
  What is unbelievable? That a Communist is in favour of the abolition of private property?
  - SirLJ 9y ago
    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.