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Disturbingly, you would seem to be saying that any registrar business should cut off any customer that causes them any problems whatsoever. What if I’m hosting

by alanh 9y ago

Disturbingly, you would seem to be saying that any registrar business should cut off any customer that causes them any problems whatsoever. What if I’m hosting a pro-LGBT blog for Russians and the Russian government starts filing complaints with my registrar? Your argument is that this is a fine time for me to be cut adrift.

ryanlol 9y ago
It's an unfortunate reality, but luckily there are providers who specialize in ensuring delivery even for such troublesome content. Fact is that if you're getting a bunch of complaints (or, really any at all) you're a very special kind of a customer who needs a specialist service provider. Check out https://njal.la https://njal.la for example, they charge a bit more but they won't shut you down right away.
- Houshalter 9y ago
  But if you don't set a precedent for removing "troublesome content" they won't bother to attack it. Once a precedent is set that you can get websites removed from the internet by pestering the registrars, lots of people will come out of the woodwork to try that.
  - ryanlol 9y ago
    >Once a precedent is set that you can get websites removed from the internet by pestering the registrars, lots of people will come out of the woodwork to try that. Uh, this precedent has been set a very long time ago. People have been doing this for ages, I've seen multiple IRC networks have to change their domains because of false abuse reports sent to their registrars. I've personally had several domains taken down by registrars because of utterly ridiculous legal threats.
williamscales 9y ago
I mean, practically speaking, yeah, that's probably what would happen if your registrar cares about the Russian government's opinion of it. Most businesses will cut off "problem" clients. I don't think GP is making a moral judgment there, that's just a practical description of what often happens.

by alanh 9y ago

ryanlol 9y ago

It's an unfortunate reality, but luckily there are providers who specialize in ensuring delivery even for such troublesome content. Fact is that if you're getting a bunch of complaints (or, really any at all) you're a very special kind of a customer who needs a specialist service provider. Check out https://njal.la https://njal.la for example, they charge a bit more but they won't shut you down right away.

Houshalter 9y ago
But if you don't set a precedent for removing "troublesome content" they won't bother to attack it. Once a precedent is set that you can get websites removed from the internet by pestering the registrars, lots of people will come out of the woodwork to try that.
- ryanlol 9y ago
  >Once a precedent is set that you can get websites removed from the internet by pestering the registrars, lots of people will come out of the woodwork to try that. Uh, this precedent has been set a very long time ago. People have been doing this for ages, I've seen multiple IRC networks have to change their domains because of false abuse reports sent to their registrars. I've personally had several domains taken down by registrars because of utterly ridiculous legal threats.

williamscales 9y ago

I mean, practically speaking, yeah, that's probably what would happen if your registrar cares about the Russian government's opinion of it. Most businesses will cut off "problem" clients. I don't think GP is making a moral judgment there, that's just a practical description of what often happens.