Except that people are just discussing ideas in a rational way, at least aspirationally. There aren't any physical sticks. This is complex because people desir

Except that people are just discussing ideas in a rational way, at least aspirationally. There aren't any physical sticks. This is complex because people desire for fairness and respect in incompatible ways. If we analogize away one of those problems, of course the right decision seems obvious. EDIT: I think the incompatibility is a result of some rules and norms that need changing. I don't think the conflict is a law of nature.