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No, I didn't misread the memo: > While Google hasn’t harbored the violent leftists protests that we’re seeing at universities, the frequent shaming in TGIF and

No, I didn't misread the memo: > While Google hasn’t harbored the violent leftists protests that we’re seeing at universities, the frequent shaming in TGIF and in our culture has created the same silence, psychologically unsafe environment. What he does is list "compassion for the weak" as a "left bias". That's not necessarily a statement in support of leftist ideals when combined with this two assertions: > In addition to the Left’s affinity for those it sees as weak, humans are generally biased towards protecting females. > The same compassion for those seen as weak creates political correctness[11], which constrains discourse and is complacent to the extremely sensitive PC-authoritarians that use violence and shaming to advance their cause (Which, BTW, is right before the first thing I quoted.)

nailer 9y ago
Referring to incidents of left wing violence does not imply all leftists are violent.
- dguaraglia 9y ago
  What's your point? The same could be said of "conservative parties are a platform to neo-Nazis and white supremacists" it doesn't imply all conservatives are neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but... "the implication."
  - weberc2 9y ago
    Those are different statements. The memo didn't say "liberal parties are a platform to authoritarians and antifascists". If it had, I would agree with your characterization. The strawman arguments in this drama are staggering. I guess Damore couldn't have been all wrong if his critics depend on mischaracterizations and other fallacies.
  - nailer 9y ago
    My point is that you wrote: > the memo makes a whole case... how "leftists" are violent. Which isn't true.
    - dguaraglia 9y ago
      So you don't think that singling out "leftist violence" in events where there were "alt-right violence" is choosing one side? Or accusing "PC authoritarians" of stifling diversity of opinion? (violence is not just punching people) Or accusing "the Left" of denying science regarding biological differences between individuals? (there's a huge difference between "taking with a grain of salt, considering there's a lot of societal factors that might play a bigger role" and "denying") Damore does a really good job of adding a lot of disclaimers and caveat emptors around a lot of his arguments, but he really didn't put that much effort into hiding his derision for "the Left."
      - nailer 9y ago
        You still haven't acknowledged that you wrote something that has since been proven incorrect. I'm reluctant to continue the conversation because of that, but: > So you don't think that singling out "leftist violence" in events where there were "alt-right violence" is choosing one side? James's discussion of left violence is because Google is a left wing company. If Google was a right wing company, then saying "Google has mainly right wing politics but has avoided the violence associated with far right groups" would indeed by apt.

nailer 9y ago

Referring to incidents of left wing violence does not imply all leftists are violent.

dguaraglia 9y ago
What's your point? The same could be said of "conservative parties are a platform to neo-Nazis and white supremacists" it doesn't imply all conservatives are neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but... "the implication."
- weberc2 9y ago
  Those are different statements. The memo didn't say "liberal parties are a platform to authoritarians and antifascists". If it had, I would agree with your characterization. The strawman arguments in this drama are staggering. I guess Damore couldn't have been all wrong if his critics depend on mischaracterizations and other fallacies.
- nailer 9y ago
  My point is that you wrote: > the memo makes a whole case... how "leftists" are violent. Which isn't true.
  - dguaraglia 9y ago
    So you don't think that singling out "leftist violence" in events where there were "alt-right violence" is choosing one side? Or accusing "PC authoritarians" of stifling diversity of opinion? (violence is not just punching people) Or accusing "the Left" of denying science regarding biological differences between individuals? (there's a huge difference between "taking with a grain of salt, considering there's a lot of societal factors that might play a bigger role" and "denying") Damore does a really good job of adding a lot of disclaimers and caveat emptors around a lot of his arguments, but he really didn't put that much effort into hiding his derision for "the Left."
    - nailer 9y ago
      You still haven't acknowledged that you wrote something that has since been proven incorrect. I'm reluctant to continue the conversation because of that, but: > So you don't think that singling out "leftist violence" in events where there were "alt-right violence" is choosing one side? James's discussion of left violence is because Google is a left wing company. If Google was a right wing company, then saying "Google has mainly right wing politics but has avoided the violence associated with far right groups" would indeed by apt.