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>both the left, the feminist movement, and the right fanned the flame against male teachers I find it hard to believe that this would be generally true. Source

by zygga 9y ago

>both the left, the feminist movement, and the right fanned the flame against male teachers I find it hard to believe that this would be generally true. Source? Edit: obviously you're always going to have some twats doing things like that, but that's true for everything. I'm looking for evidence that it's more than average here.

poohblahoyamo 9y ago
I think it is a lot of crazy moms that fan the flame, just from my observation. Adn the crazy moms are fanned by the media of creepy dudes. Do you know how frequently on my mommy group will be some dude's photo show up "this guy was taking picture of my kid!!!" ....... all the other moms are like. OMG OMG OMG!! Call the police.. Then there are always a few moms go like, FOR WHAT??!! for being a dude and taking some pictures at a public place.. You know there hasn't been a child missing in this neighborhood since 1995.... Then all the other moms yell at the reasonable mom..etc etc. There is a mix, I don't think it's limited to leftist or conservative moms. If anything, I found the really really rich moms (not conservative per se, but lean that way more) to be a bit more crazy in terms of thinking the world is dangerous and if their kid scrap their knee they need to go to the ER..
m3rc 9y ago
Yeah, what? The standard bearers of leftist feminism, soccer moms?
bb611 9y ago
I second the request. I spent several years as a K-5 teacher, I didn't perceive this dynamic at all. All US teachers are rightfully extremely wary of being alone with any child, and from what I've seen that is a concern for teachers of all genders.
- belorn 9y ago
  The specific case was in 2015, Sweden, Kristianstad (if you want to search for sources). The media storm grow a bit extra since the individual had worked as a substitute in 26 different schools and the potential list of victims was very large. Now in 2017 I hope that most of the male-only restrictions are gone. People forget, new fears replaces old fears, and risk assessments get realign. Random article of the time: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/pedofilanklagelserna-drabbar-den-manliga-kollektiva-skulden https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/pedofilanklagelserna... Random article #2: http://www.tv4.se/efter-tio/klipp/barnsk%C3%B6taren-mitt-liv-f%C3%B6rst%C3%B6rdes-%C3%B6ver-en-natt-3136173 http://www.tv4.se/efter-tio/klipp/barnsk%C3%B6taren-mitt-liv... It was a couple years ago and I could not hope to find all the media articles from that time, including radio and TV reports. But I wish that no teachers should ever need to be wary of being alone with a child. It seems similar when I hear people that they should be wary of being alone with female coworkers in fear of being accused of sexual assault. Edit: I did consider when I wrote the above comment yesterday that I might be doing the exact same harm that the Female engineers in the article was worried about by bringing up the case. At the same time it was one of the reasons why it so strongly reminded me of this case. As a teacher, do you find it that writing this on HN is harming teachers by bringing up pedophilia in the context of kindergarten teachers?

by zygga 9y ago

poohblahoyamo 9y ago

I think it is a lot of crazy moms that fan the flame, just from my observation. Adn the crazy moms are fanned by the media of creepy dudes. Do you know how frequently on my mommy group will be some dude's photo show up "this guy was taking picture of my kid!!!" ....... all the other moms are like. OMG OMG OMG!! Call the police.. Then there are always a few moms go like, FOR WHAT??!! for being a dude and taking some pictures at a public place.. You know there hasn't been a child missing in this neighborhood since 1995.... Then all the other moms yell at the reasonable mom..etc etc. There is a mix, I don't think it's limited to leftist or conservative moms. If anything, I found the really really rich moms (not conservative per se, but lean that way more) to be a bit more crazy in terms of thinking the world is dangerous and if their kid scrap their knee they need to go to the ER..

m3rc 9y ago

Yeah, what? The standard bearers of leftist feminism, soccer moms?

bb611 9y ago

I second the request. I spent several years as a K-5 teacher, I didn't perceive this dynamic at all. All US teachers are rightfully extremely wary of being alone with any child, and from what I've seen that is a concern for teachers of all genders.

belorn 9y ago
The specific case was in 2015, Sweden, Kristianstad (if you want to search for sources). The media storm grow a bit extra since the individual had worked as a substitute in 26 different schools and the potential list of victims was very large. Now in 2017 I hope that most of the male-only restrictions are gone. People forget, new fears replaces old fears, and risk assessments get realign. Random article of the time: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/pedofilanklagelserna-drabbar-den-manliga-kollektiva-skulden https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/pedofilanklagelserna... Random article #2: http://www.tv4.se/efter-tio/klipp/barnsk%C3%B6taren-mitt-liv-f%C3%B6rst%C3%B6rdes-%C3%B6ver-en-natt-3136173 http://www.tv4.se/efter-tio/klipp/barnsk%C3%B6taren-mitt-liv... It was a couple years ago and I could not hope to find all the media articles from that time, including radio and TV reports. But I wish that no teachers should ever need to be wary of being alone with a child. It seems similar when I hear people that they should be wary of being alone with female coworkers in fear of being accused of sexual assault. Edit: I did consider when I wrote the above comment yesterday that I might be doing the exact same harm that the Female engineers in the article was worried about by bringing up the case. At the same time it was one of the reasons why it so strongly reminded me of this case. As a teacher, do you find it that writing this on HN is harming teachers by bringing up pedophilia in the context of kindergarten teachers?