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In that case you have an off-line discussion with a group of friends to validate your idea. If there seems to be a consensus, you raise the point at the next TG

In that case you have an off-line discussion with a group of friends to validate your idea. If there seems to be a consensus, you raise the point at the next TGIF (the internal Alphabet-wide gathering every Thursday), tactfully and without making generalizations about gender and without inflammatory arguments against your perceived political leanings of the company. I was there during the whole Nest reorg/culture drama for crying out loud. I've seen people lob really hairy questions at the TGIF panel and I don't recall a single one of them getting fired.

lliamander 9y ago
> In that case you have an off-line discussion with a group of friends to validate your idea. He brought it to the Google Skeptics group for precisely that reason. > If there seems to be a consensus, you raise the point at the next TGIF (the internal Alphabet-wide gathering every Thursday), tactfully and without making generalizations about gender and without inflammatory arguments against your perceived political leanings of the company. What point would that be?
- dguaraglia 9y ago
  > He brought it to the Google Skeptics group for precisely that reason That's not an off-line resource. That's a public mailing list reachable by any employee. It's not even remotely what I am suggesting. > What point would that be? "I believe our current hiring practices might be affecting certain candidates because A, B and C mechanism stop/hinder/disproportionally-favor X, Y, Z groups" No need for building an argument about biological differences between men and women, no reason to build an antagonistic recount of what you think the motivations are, no need to call your peers and higher ups "Leftist." State the facts, ask the question, move on. Assuming he really cared about hiring practices (which is purportedly the reason he wrote the memo), that would've gotten everyone's attention and I can guarantee that nobody would've gotten fired.

lliamander 9y ago

> In that case you have an off-line discussion with a group of friends to validate your idea. He brought it to the Google Skeptics group for precisely that reason. > If there seems to be a consensus, you raise the point at the next TGIF (the internal Alphabet-wide gathering every Thursday), tactfully and without making generalizations about gender and without inflammatory arguments against your perceived political leanings of the company. What point would that be?

dguaraglia 9y ago
> He brought it to the Google Skeptics group for precisely that reason That's not an off-line resource. That's a public mailing list reachable by any employee. It's not even remotely what I am suggesting. > What point would that be? "I believe our current hiring practices might be affecting certain candidates because A, B and C mechanism stop/hinder/disproportionally-favor X, Y, Z groups" No need for building an argument about biological differences between men and women, no reason to build an antagonistic recount of what you think the motivations are, no need to call your peers and higher ups "Leftist." State the facts, ask the question, move on. Assuming he really cared about hiring practices (which is purportedly the reason he wrote the memo), that would've gotten everyone's attention and I can guarantee that nobody would've gotten fired.