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I think his motivation was much closer to "I feel irritated because I was just forced to attend a feminist indoctrination program and I want to let management k

I think his motivation was much closer to "I feel irritated because I was just forced to attend a feminist indoctrination program and I want to let management know I disagree with this kind of thing". And then he proceeded to make his request obliquely, by attempting to couch it as a scientific debate, when really it was a cultural one.

ubernostrum 9y ago
Ah, yes, the "feminist indoctrination program". No doubt he was sent to a re-education camp where Überstürmfeminists of Femgruppe A forcibly shoved their hateful and virulent ideas down his throat. I'm sure that's very close to what actually happened, and that this phrase is not hyperbolic or trying to portray "maybe we should treat people equally and not pre-assume things about what roles they should have based on their race/gender" as an extreme radical idea when it should be the default stance.
- metaphorm 9y ago
  remember I was speaking in Damore's hypothetical voice. The program is typically called "unconscious bias awareness training" as well as "diversity training". But yes, he was sent to a training program that irritated him. Please don't criticize my portrayal of someone else's impressions of those programs as if that was my own opinion. You are free to watch Damore himself speak about that in the several taped interviews he has given since being fired.
- Chris2048 9y ago
  Here are slides from Google: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/9/16122072/google-diversity-bias-training-james-damore-memo https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/9/16122072/google-diversity-... Viewed charitably "[it is off-topic to be] doubting the validity of scenarios" is fine (so long as it goes either way), but the question I'd ask is: Is "debating whether bias exists at your organisation" on-topic for a future session, or does that conversation just never happen? I'd also like to know if "Unconscious Bias training" ever references the "Implicit association test".

ubernostrum 9y ago

Ah, yes, the "feminist indoctrination program". No doubt he was sent to a re-education camp where Überstürmfeminists of Femgruppe A forcibly shoved their hateful and virulent ideas down his throat. I'm sure that's very close to what actually happened, and that this phrase is not hyperbolic or trying to portray "maybe we should treat people equally and not pre-assume things about what roles they should have based on their race/gender" as an extreme radical idea when it should be the default stance.

metaphorm 9y ago
remember I was speaking in Damore's hypothetical voice. The program is typically called "unconscious bias awareness training" as well as "diversity training". But yes, he was sent to a training program that irritated him. Please don't criticize my portrayal of someone else's impressions of those programs as if that was my own opinion. You are free to watch Damore himself speak about that in the several taped interviews he has given since being fired.
Chris2048 9y ago
Here are slides from Google: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/9/16122072/google-diversity-bias-training-james-damore-memo https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/9/16122072/google-diversity-... Viewed charitably "[it is off-topic to be] doubting the validity of scenarios" is fine (so long as it goes either way), but the question I'd ask is: Is "debating whether bias exists at your organisation" on-topic for a future session, or does that conversation just never happen? I'd also like to know if "Unconscious Bias training" ever references the "Implicit association test".