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I cheated once on a Spanish test in 8th grade. I was kicked out of basketball for the next rest of the year. When I look back at why I cheated the simplest re

by TGJ 16y ago

I cheated once on a Spanish test in 8th grade. I was kicked out of basketball for the next rest of the year. When I look back at why I cheated the simplest reason was that I did not study for the test. The reason that I did not study was because I was being forced to take the class. If I had wanted to take the class, I would have never cheated because I would have wanted to learn. I think people want the rewards for accomplishments but not the accomplishment itself. That's why people cheat.

chrischen 16y ago
Students cheat because the institution doesn't tell them to learn. Institutions tell them to get high grades. And students, being cunning smartasses they are, say "fine, I will get high grades," and thus they proceed to cheat because it is the easier way to get high grades and/or pass tests. If instead schools simply said you're here to learn, and God (aka the natural laws of the universe which are unbreakable) will determine whether or not you "pass" in life, then no one would cheat (or can cheat, for that matter).
- rick888 16y ago
  "Students cheat because the institution doesn't tell them to learn. Institutions tell them to get high grades. And students, being cunning smartasses they are, say "fine, I will get high grades," and thus they proceed to cheat because it is the easier way to get high grades and/or pass tests." Those students are lazy and they will most likely bring that laziness to their job. Yes, it's easy to just cheat and get good grades, but the grades are supposed to be the result of your hard work. I know people in high school that loved to cheat and find the easiest way to pass whatever test they were taking. 10 years later, many of them have low-paying factory jobs and are still living with mom and dad. If I hacked into my school's computer system and gave myself all A's, it doesn't make me any smarter in Calculus (one of the subjects where I changed my grade). You could go out and buy a trophy that says that you made MVP of your softball league, but isn't the point to earn it? Students being smartasses only proves that humans will take the past of least resistance. "If instead schools simply said you're here to learn, and God (aka the natural laws of the universe which are unbreakable) will determine whether or not you "pass" in life, then no one would cheat (or can cheat, for that matter)." That's like saying: If we stop arresting people, we won't have any more criminals. How are we going to judge people on how much they have learned if not on concepts and material from their lessons?
  - chrischen 16y ago
    > That's like saying: If we stop arresting people, we won't have any more criminals. It's actually more like saying we should take away all laws. > How are we going to judge people on how much they have learned if not on concepts and material from their lessons? Well, without laws, whoever is still alive at the end of the day has made it. > Those students are lazy and they will most likely bring that laziness to their job. I think it's naive to think all the people who cheat all get what they deserve. I honestly can't say what % of them do get what they deserve, but I'm sure it's not all of them. Yes, given time = infinity, they will all get what they deserve. It's also an uphill battle to not get what you deserve and cheat, but I think a lot of people can get away with cheating before they die. And also it does not mean they are lazy. It simply means they are more practical. For example if a child is told to do task B, but aren't given a satisfactory reason for doing it, then they are highly compelled to cheat, lazy or not, if completion of the task gets them something of understandable value. > If I hacked into my school's computer system and gave myself all A's, it doesn't make me any smarter in Calculus (one of the subjects where I changed my grade). Why would you do this? I'm guessing you would do this if A's could get you a better job right/more opportunities? So getting the As has understandable value to you. So that means you have two possible opinions regarding the actual learning part: 1 - You do not understand why you have to learn it, so the least path of resistance for you is to cheat (You're not necessarily lazy, you just don't want to do unnecessary work), 2 - You understand the value of the learning but you're a lazy and you just try to cheat to get the grades for free. > You could go out and buy a trophy that says that you made MVP of your softball league, but isn't the point to earn it? The point is to earn it, but lots of students don't immediately see that point. They're just told that you have to do learn this and that it will one day be important. When students get to college many more of them see this, but still a lot don't understand the full importance of actually learning. It's why people pad or lie on resumes. Some people do it 'cause they're lazy, but some do it because they believe the end justifies the means. The unfortunate part is that a lot of these students can continue doing this and get a job at a big company because a big company doesn't care so much about actual performance, so as long as you have the credentials. Disclaimer: I cheated once on a spelling test in 5th grade, apart from that, I do not remember ever cheating again.
    - 16y ago

by TGJ 16y ago

chrischen 16y ago

Students cheat because the institution doesn't tell them to learn. Institutions tell them to get high grades. And students, being cunning smartasses they are, say "fine, I will get high grades," and thus they proceed to cheat because it is the easier way to get high grades and/or pass tests. If instead schools simply said you're here to learn, and God (aka the natural laws of the universe which are unbreakable) will determine whether or not you "pass" in life, then no one would cheat (or can cheat, for that matter).

rick888 16y ago
"Students cheat because the institution doesn't tell them to learn. Institutions tell them to get high grades. And students, being cunning smartasses they are, say "fine, I will get high grades," and thus they proceed to cheat because it is the easier way to get high grades and/or pass tests." Those students are lazy and they will most likely bring that laziness to their job. Yes, it's easy to just cheat and get good grades, but the grades are supposed to be the result of your hard work. I know people in high school that loved to cheat and find the easiest way to pass whatever test they were taking. 10 years later, many of them have low-paying factory jobs and are still living with mom and dad. If I hacked into my school's computer system and gave myself all A's, it doesn't make me any smarter in Calculus (one of the subjects where I changed my grade). You could go out and buy a trophy that says that you made MVP of your softball league, but isn't the point to earn it? Students being smartasses only proves that humans will take the past of least resistance. "If instead schools simply said you're here to learn, and God (aka the natural laws of the universe which are unbreakable) will determine whether or not you "pass" in life, then no one would cheat (or can cheat, for that matter)." That's like saying: If we stop arresting people, we won't have any more criminals. How are we going to judge people on how much they have learned if not on concepts and material from their lessons?
- chrischen 16y ago
  > That's like saying: If we stop arresting people, we won't have any more criminals. It's actually more like saying we should take away all laws. > How are we going to judge people on how much they have learned if not on concepts and material from their lessons? Well, without laws, whoever is still alive at the end of the day has made it. > Those students are lazy and they will most likely bring that laziness to their job. I think it's naive to think all the people who cheat all get what they deserve. I honestly can't say what % of them do get what they deserve, but I'm sure it's not all of them. Yes, given time = infinity, they will all get what they deserve. It's also an uphill battle to not get what you deserve and cheat, but I think a lot of people can get away with cheating before they die. And also it does not mean they are lazy. It simply means they are more practical. For example if a child is told to do task B, but aren't given a satisfactory reason for doing it, then they are highly compelled to cheat, lazy or not, if completion of the task gets them something of understandable value. > If I hacked into my school's computer system and gave myself all A's, it doesn't make me any smarter in Calculus (one of the subjects where I changed my grade). Why would you do this? I'm guessing you would do this if A's could get you a better job right/more opportunities? So getting the As has understandable value to you. So that means you have two possible opinions regarding the actual learning part: 1 - You do not understand why you have to learn it, so the least path of resistance for you is to cheat (You're not necessarily lazy, you just don't want to do unnecessary work), 2 - You understand the value of the learning but you're a lazy and you just try to cheat to get the grades for free. > You could go out and buy a trophy that says that you made MVP of your softball league, but isn't the point to earn it? The point is to earn it, but lots of students don't immediately see that point. They're just told that you have to do learn this and that it will one day be important. When students get to college many more of them see this, but still a lot don't understand the full importance of actually learning. It's why people pad or lie on resumes. Some people do it 'cause they're lazy, but some do it because they believe the end justifies the means. The unfortunate part is that a lot of these students can continue doing this and get a job at a big company because a big company doesn't care so much about actual performance, so as long as you have the credentials. Disclaimer: I cheated once on a spelling test in 5th grade, apart from that, I do not remember ever cheating again.
  - 16y ago