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Trump did disavow the white supremacists. Not fast enough for them?

by cpr 9y ago

philk10 9y ago
and then RT'd someone who's a good buddy with Richard Spencer. Actions speaking louder than words from a teleprompter
- stevenh 9y ago
  Who did he retweet?
  - philk10 9y ago
    Jack Posobiec - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec
    - stevenh 9y ago
      http://i.imgur.com/iFPB5my.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iFPB5my.jpg The wikipedia article also suggests they don't like each other at all: >Posobiec organized a "Rally Against Political Violence" in Washington, D.C. on June 25, 2017. Richard Spencer ridiculed the event and called it "pathetic".
      - philk10 9y ago
        They might have had a tiff after this picture https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/richie.jpg https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/richie.j...
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cyphar 9y ago
Not really. He didn't refer to them as white supremacists, and was far too moderate in condemning the violence that happened on behalf of the neo-Nazi protestors, referring to "violence on all sides". For a person who slammed the media and Obama for not "calling a spade a spade" on radial Islamic terrorism, it's quite hypocritical to then not "call a spade a spade" on white supremacist terrorism. To be clear, the left has acted violently as well in the past (just look at the Berkley riots), but in this context "violence on all sides" sounds as though the violence was not entirely initiated by one side. But for all accounts, that's exactly what happened. Counter-protestors weren't the ones to drive a car into a crowd. Some people argue that the protestors having permits somehow excuses the fact that they attacked counter-protestors, but that doesn't make sense unless the violence was initiated by the counter-protestors (which there doesn't appear to be evidence for, and there is plenty of evidence to the contrary).
- yellowapple 9y ago
  "Counter-protestors weren't the ones to drive a car into a crowd." But they were (among) the ones who showed up with baseball bats, clubs, and mace (and even a few guns). It's not like the protesters were the only ones ready for a fight. "Counter-protestors weren't the ones to drive a car into a crowd." That happened well after there had been a lot of fighting already.
  - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
    When you're defending white supremacists, it's time to take a step back and reevaluate your perspective.
    - itbeho 9y ago
      Let's stop ignoring violence when it suits our own political agenda and start condemning it wherever it occurs. Racism has no place in our society and violent acts only fuel it. Pointing that out doesn't imply someone is "defending white supremacists".
madengr 9y ago
It amazes me that the media & democrats still have not figured out how shrewd Trump is. The aforementioned consider themselves intellectuals, and Trump the buffoon. Trump has a hell of a track record turning everything they say against them. He is is REALLY shrewd. They keep playing by his rules, and end up with egg on their faces. Maybe the'll figure out not to fall for playing his game. I find it all quite entertaining; bait and troll. Whatever he failed to say, it's deliberate and calculated, and they are playing right into it. They'd better just wait it out for 4 years, because their collective intelligence does not match his shrewdness.
- zimpenfish 9y ago
  > how shrewd Trump is He really isn't. He's everyone's impotent racist bigoted grandparent railing against the iniquities of the modern world because he doesn't understand that the world has moved on from 19th century plantations. The man is a demonstrable idiot who has achieved little off his own bat.

Trump did disavow the white supremacists. Not fast enough for them?

by cpr 9y ago

Trump did disavow the white supremacists. Not fast enough for them?

philk10 9y ago

and then RT'd someone who's a good buddy with Richard Spencer. Actions speaking louder than words from a teleprompter

stevenh 9y ago
Who did he retweet?
- philk10 9y ago
  Jack Posobiec - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec
  - stevenh 9y ago
    http://i.imgur.com/iFPB5my.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iFPB5my.jpg The wikipedia article also suggests they don't like each other at all: >Posobiec organized a "Rally Against Political Violence" in Washington, D.C. on June 25, 2017. Richard Spencer ridiculed the event and called it "pathetic".
    - philk10 9y ago
      They might have had a tiff after this picture https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/richie.jpg https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/richie.j...
- deleted 9y ago
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cyphar 9y ago

Not really. He didn't refer to them as white supremacists, and was far too moderate in condemning the violence that happened on behalf of the neo-Nazi protestors, referring to "violence on all sides". For a person who slammed the media and Obama for not "calling a spade a spade" on radial Islamic terrorism, it's quite hypocritical to then not "call a spade a spade" on white supremacist terrorism. To be clear, the left has acted violently as well in the past (just look at the Berkley riots), but in this context "violence on all sides" sounds as though the violence was not entirely initiated by one side. But for all accounts, that's exactly what happened. Counter-protestors weren't the ones to drive a car into a crowd. Some people argue that the protestors having permits somehow excuses the fact that they attacked counter-protestors, but that doesn't make sense unless the violence was initiated by the counter-protestors (which there doesn't appear to be evidence for, and there is plenty of evidence to the contrary).

yellowapple 9y ago
"Counter-protestors weren't the ones to drive a car into a crowd." But they were (among) the ones who showed up with baseball bats, clubs, and mace (and even a few guns). It's not like the protesters were the only ones ready for a fight. "Counter-protestors weren't the ones to drive a car into a crowd." That happened well after there had been a lot of fighting already.
- grasshopperpurp 9y ago
  When you're defending white supremacists, it's time to take a step back and reevaluate your perspective.
  - itbeho 9y ago
    Let's stop ignoring violence when it suits our own political agenda and start condemning it wherever it occurs. Racism has no place in our society and violent acts only fuel it. Pointing that out doesn't imply someone is "defending white supremacists".

madengr 9y ago

It amazes me that the media & democrats still have not figured out how shrewd Trump is. The aforementioned consider themselves intellectuals, and Trump the buffoon. Trump has a hell of a track record turning everything they say against them. He is is REALLY shrewd. They keep playing by his rules, and end up with egg on their faces. Maybe the'll figure out not to fall for playing his game. I find it all quite entertaining; bait and troll. Whatever he failed to say, it's deliberate and calculated, and they are playing right into it. They'd better just wait it out for 4 years, because their collective intelligence does not match his shrewdness.

zimpenfish 9y ago
> how shrewd Trump is He really isn't. He's everyone's impotent racist bigoted grandparent railing against the iniquities of the modern world because he doesn't understand that the world has moved on from 19th century plantations. The man is a demonstrable idiot who has achieved little off his own bat.