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The black CEO of Merck resigned from the council when the President failed to denounce white supremacists in Charlottesville (blatantly so, watch the entire raw

The black CEO of Merck resigned from the council when the President failed to denounce white supremacists in Charlottesville (blatantly so, watch the entire raw video through the bill signing). The CEO of Merck was then attacked on Twitter via the @realDonaldTrump account. Later, Under Armour and Intel CEOs both resigned from the council. Both white. Neither were attacked on Twitter. Yesterday, the President went on TV again and gave a speech denouncing the KKK and white supremacists. The sincerity of the speech was called into question due to the late timing and his delivery. Yesterday evening, the @realDonaldTrump account retweeted an Alt Right leader's tweet about unreported violence in Chicago over the weekend. The tweet was, subjectively, a racist dog whistle that essentially translates to, "Sure a white supremacist killed a woman at our alt right rally on Saturday, but look at what black people did in Chicago!" Explain to me how this is a self-fulfilling narrative? It has nothing to do with the news media and everything to do with the President himself on TV and Twitter.

graycat 9y ago
I'm sorry: This "failed to denounce" is just a game, part of the news gossip I described. And the second play of the game is failed to denounce "soon enough". Trump did NOTHING at all wrong. His first speech was fine, presidential, responsible, good leadership, highly ethical, calm the nation, slow, hopefully stop, the violence, save more people from getting killed. The failed to denounce soon enough, strongly enough, and convincingly enough is just a game played by people who want to have an excuse for a headline, to make up a story, to contribute to a narrative, to play to a partisan audience, to get eyeballs and clicks, to push gossip, innuendo, etc. It's not objective. This is not the first time: The newsies jumped on this game, manipulation, way back in the campaign on the cooked-up issue that Trump did not "denounce" David Duke "fast enough". Made-up, cooked-up, stirred-up, deliberately deceptive and provocative, BS. Attempting to incite a riot. Skilled, clever gossip, Victorian garden party nasty, bitchy, social chit-chat used as "news". They also want to start a fight, to have something to write stories about, to blame Trump for, to get more stories, to push their narrative, even if the fight KILLS more people. The newsies are very dirty dogs. You fell for their manipulation. You can go for that nasty, dangerous, inciting violence, manipulation BS if you want; it's a free country; we have a free press; the press is permitted to publish total BS; and some people will believe it -- that's their right. But in a free country with a free press, one of your responsibilities as a citizen is to be darned skeptical of such BS manipulation, to filter it out, not fall for it. That Trump did anything wrong is just silly, again, pile-on gossip: The POTUS should not be pushed into having his statements dictated by newsies. Look, this newsie game, if you fall for it, is like a "fork" in chess: If Trump gives a really good, presidential, responsible speech as he did, then the newsies claim he didn't denounce specific people and groups fast enough or strongly enough. So, the newsies want Trump to say provocative things. They basically want to trick Trump into using the newsies words and content. Then the newsies get to demean Trump, make him an obedient puppy, cost him respect and status. So, if you go along, either way with the fork, Trump loses and the newsies win. Again, once again, over again, yet again, one more time, this time just for you, it's a dirty newsie manipulation. You need to see this. It's a little like some dirt bags in high school creating gossip and pushing and pushing it to create a consensus, based on absolutely 0 that is real, to push the captain of the football team actually off the team and likely out of the school. For the newsies, with just gossip, to bring down a freely, properly elected POTUS, to cancel a free election, to overturn our democracy, would be one of the worst harms to the US in all its history, but THAT is just what the newsies are trying to do. Then, think of all the headlines, eyeballs, and ad revenue they could get? The captain of the football team and the POTUS are safe unless you let yourself be manipulated by dirty newsies. Trump's statements were fully, very appropriate. Sure, the newsies who want headlines want to start a fight, have Trump name names, do name calling, get into specific fights with specific people and groups, etc. Trump was correct -- such newsies will never be satisfied. Why? The biggest reason is that as soon as people are satisfied, the newsies lose audience, clicks, ad revenue, headlines, stories, and their narrative. The newsies are trying to incite a fight. The American people are getting a crash, high level course in reading comprehension and understanding manipulation: The newsies will throw made-up, cooked-up, stirred-up, incited, provoked, gang-up, pile-on nonsense as fast as they can. First cut, we should just ignore it. When they called Melania an "escort model", they got sued big league and lost. The news people are very dirty dogs and want your eyeballs. You've let them get to you with their claim that Trump should pick fights. No he shouldn't. The newsies want a FIGHT to cover and want to provoke Trump into a fight. So, the newsies have a narrative that Trump is racist (top card in the Democrat deck, the race card, then the gender card, ..., and the newsies are about 90% Democrat) and keep pushing that narrative. Look at all objectively and see that the narrative is just total propaganda JUST as in the Goebbels "if you tell a lie often enough then people will believe it". You've been manipulated, been had. The newsies are thrilled with you and count on a lot more clicks from you. The good news about the dirty dog newsies is that they have been shoveling their deceptive, manipulative, lying BS against Trump for 2 years now, and the worse thing they have found so far that has any credibility at all is just something about two scoops of ice cream. So, with all that newsie effort at dirt, we have to conclude that Trump is squeaky clean and a really good guy. They've got nothing; they've got zip, zilch, and zero; they've got nichts, nil, nada; they've got their 1+ year old Russia story with nothing, a big nothing burger, "where's the beef?". As I wrote in my post above, the newsies are desperate for headlines, stories, eyeballs, revenue, etc. They are about to go out of business and have zero credibility left. You have fallen just for nasty gossip. Why? You just want to take up the Goebbels style lies so that you can fit in with others who do that? The dirty dog newsies are inciting violence that stands to get people killed, and you are going along with them. Not good. Wise up.
- heartbreak 9y ago
  White supremacists came to my city and killed a woman 4 blocks up the street from my house, and the President's message was "there was violence on all sides". Only one side came to Charlottesville and killed someone. Only one side came to Charlottesville and chanted "Blood and Soil" while holding 200 torches in front of the Rotunda. Trump explicitly refused to acknowledge white supremacists when asked about it. The questions were shouted out, but maybe he shouldn't call it a press conference if he wants to be the only one talking. This idea that it's all media spin is frankly insulting to anyone personally affected by these domestic terrorists.
  - graycat 9y ago
    He's trying to calm people down and save lives. The newsies want to have Trump provoke a fight. E.g., if Trump denounces some group, then opposing groups will be more motivated to attack with violence. You can't see this? And the dirty dog newsies were trying to get Trump to provoke fights. Then some people would die, and the newsies would get more headlines. Look fellow citizen: We are a free country. You get to believe what you want. We have a free press that gets to ask any provocative, dangerous, accusatory, BS questions they want and write nearly any total BS stories they want. BUT, then, it is up to you, good US citizen, to wise up and filter out the obvious manipulation to get your eyeballs, clicks, and ad revenue. The newsies ask these total, dangerous, BS questions but, then, prove that Trump is a plenty good enough leader not to fall for that trap. Newsies are often trying to get the POTUS to do something really dumb that would hurt the country so that the newsies can have a story, get eyeballs, clicks, and dollars. You just fell for the newsie BS. It's DANGEROUS stuff, stands to get people killed, could cancel a solid democratic election, and seriously hurt our country. It could start a second civil war -- Flake is doing his best at that. Don't fall for that newsie stuff. We are both US citizens: We need to keep the newsies from inciting violence and a civil war and ruining our country.
    - heartbreak 9y ago
      I wish you would stop calling me a sheep. Have a nice day.
graycat 9y ago
> Explain to me how this is a self-fulfilling narrative? It has nothing to do with the news media and everything to do with the President himself on TV and Twitter. Trump has done just nothing at all wrong. You pointed to nothing, no quotes, no references. On Twitter, I "follow" just three people, and Trump is one of them; so, I've likely seen all his Tweets. They all seem fine to me. If you have a bad Tweet, then cough it up and say what's wrong with it. Who the heck has talked, manipulated you into thinking that Trump has done anything wrong? A lot of newsies have been trying for 2+ years to find any dirt on Trump, and so far the worst they found that has any credibility was something about two scoops of ice cream. No, he never said he grabbed a woman by the short hair. He, maybe just as a mentor, just told a younger man that, from a powerful man, some women would permit it. That knowledge didn't take much, just watch a certain TV show or see the associated book: JFK actually did just that, to NJ debutante, 19, engaged to be married, from Miss Porter's School where Jackie Kennedy went, White House intern, Miss Mimi Alford as at http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/03/16305081-white-house-intern-speaks-about-jfk-affair-i-was-sort-of-swept-into-this-web http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/03/16305081-whit... and it's been on TV at least once, and Miss Alford wrote a book about it. Actually, in fact, on the NBC tape, that's ALL Trump told that man. ALL. Did some nasty newsies convince you of something else? Sin, crime, sexual molestation, sexism, violence, etc.? Did you get manipulated? All Trump did was relate what was on TV and in the book Miss Alford wrote about what JFK did. Did you get fooled on this one? No, the Trump campaign did not "collude" with the Russians to help Trump win the election. Daily, the NYT, WaPo, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc. put out all the nasty guesses, accusations, theories, gossip, grab people by the heart, the gut, below the belt, always below the shoulders, never between the ears, etc. against Trump they can find, but so far the worst they have is the two scoops of ice cream. Have the newsies convinced you of some really bad stuff about Trump? They gave you really good evidence, right? Or did you let them manipulate you? If you have something serious and solid against Trump, then I'm all ears. You have been manipulated, led around by the nose.

graycat 9y ago

I'm sorry: This "failed to denounce" is just a game, part of the news gossip I described. And the second play of the game is failed to denounce "soon enough". Trump did NOTHING at all wrong. His first speech was fine, presidential, responsible, good leadership, highly ethical, calm the nation, slow, hopefully stop, the violence, save more people from getting killed. The failed to denounce soon enough, strongly enough, and convincingly enough is just a game played by people who want to have an excuse for a headline, to make up a story, to contribute to a narrative, to play to a partisan audience, to get eyeballs and clicks, to push gossip, innuendo, etc. It's not objective. This is not the first time: The newsies jumped on this game, manipulation, way back in the campaign on the cooked-up issue that Trump did not "denounce" David Duke "fast enough". Made-up, cooked-up, stirred-up, deliberately deceptive and provocative, BS. Attempting to incite a riot. Skilled, clever gossip, Victorian garden party nasty, bitchy, social chit-chat used as "news". They also want to start a fight, to have something to write stories about, to blame Trump for, to get more stories, to push their narrative, even if the fight KILLS more people. The newsies are very dirty dogs. You fell for their manipulation. You can go for that nasty, dangerous, inciting violence, manipulation BS if you want; it's a free country; we have a free press; the press is permitted to publish total BS; and some people will believe it -- that's their right. But in a free country with a free press, one of your responsibilities as a citizen is to be darned skeptical of such BS manipulation, to filter it out, not fall for it. That Trump did anything wrong is just silly, again, pile-on gossip: The POTUS should not be pushed into having his statements dictated by newsies. Look, this newsie game, if you fall for it, is like a "fork" in chess: If Trump gives a really good, presidential, responsible speech as he did, then the newsies claim he didn't denounce specific people and groups fast enough or strongly enough. So, the newsies want Trump to say provocative things. They basically want to trick Trump into using the newsies words and content. Then the newsies get to demean Trump, make him an obedient puppy, cost him respect and status. So, if you go along, either way with the fork, Trump loses and the newsies win. Again, once again, over again, yet again, one more time, this time just for you, it's a dirty newsie manipulation. You need to see this. It's a little like some dirt bags in high school creating gossip and pushing and pushing it to create a consensus, based on absolutely 0 that is real, to push the captain of the football team actually off the team and likely out of the school. For the newsies, with just gossip, to bring down a freely, properly elected POTUS, to cancel a free election, to overturn our democracy, would be one of the worst harms to the US in all its history, but THAT is just what the newsies are trying to do. Then, think of all the headlines, eyeballs, and ad revenue they could get? The captain of the football team and the POTUS are safe unless you let yourself be manipulated by dirty newsies. Trump's statements were fully, very appropriate. Sure, the newsies who want headlines want to start a fight, have Trump name names, do name calling, get into specific fights with specific people and groups, etc. Trump was correct -- such newsies will never be satisfied. Why? The biggest reason is that as soon as people are satisfied, the newsies lose audience, clicks, ad revenue, headlines, stories, and their narrative. The newsies are trying to incite a fight. The American people are getting a crash, high level course in reading comprehension and understanding manipulation: The newsies will throw made-up, cooked-up, stirred-up, incited, provoked, gang-up, pile-on nonsense as fast as they can. First cut, we should just ignore it. When they called Melania an "escort model", they got sued big league and lost. The news people are very dirty dogs and want your eyeballs. You've let them get to you with their claim that Trump should pick fights. No he shouldn't. The newsies want a FIGHT to cover and want to provoke Trump into a fight. So, the newsies have a narrative that Trump is racist (top card in the Democrat deck, the race card, then the gender card, ..., and the newsies are about 90% Democrat) and keep pushing that narrative. Look at all objectively and see that the narrative is just total propaganda JUST as in the Goebbels "if you tell a lie often enough then people will believe it". You've been manipulated, been had. The newsies are thrilled with you and count on a lot more clicks from you. The good news about the dirty dog newsies is that they have been shoveling their deceptive, manipulative, lying BS against Trump for 2 years now, and the worse thing they have found so far that has any credibility at all is just something about two scoops of ice cream. So, with all that newsie effort at dirt, we have to conclude that Trump is squeaky clean and a really good guy. They've got nothing; they've got zip, zilch, and zero; they've got nichts, nil, nada; they've got their 1+ year old Russia story with nothing, a big nothing burger, "where's the beef?". As I wrote in my post above, the newsies are desperate for headlines, stories, eyeballs, revenue, etc. They are about to go out of business and have zero credibility left. You have fallen just for nasty gossip. Why? You just want to take up the Goebbels style lies so that you can fit in with others who do that? The dirty dog newsies are inciting violence that stands to get people killed, and you are going along with them. Not good. Wise up.

heartbreak 9y ago
White supremacists came to my city and killed a woman 4 blocks up the street from my house, and the President's message was "there was violence on all sides". Only one side came to Charlottesville and killed someone. Only one side came to Charlottesville and chanted "Blood and Soil" while holding 200 torches in front of the Rotunda. Trump explicitly refused to acknowledge white supremacists when asked about it. The questions were shouted out, but maybe he shouldn't call it a press conference if he wants to be the only one talking. This idea that it's all media spin is frankly insulting to anyone personally affected by these domestic terrorists.
- graycat 9y ago
  He's trying to calm people down and save lives. The newsies want to have Trump provoke a fight. E.g., if Trump denounces some group, then opposing groups will be more motivated to attack with violence. You can't see this? And the dirty dog newsies were trying to get Trump to provoke fights. Then some people would die, and the newsies would get more headlines. Look fellow citizen: We are a free country. You get to believe what you want. We have a free press that gets to ask any provocative, dangerous, accusatory, BS questions they want and write nearly any total BS stories they want. BUT, then, it is up to you, good US citizen, to wise up and filter out the obvious manipulation to get your eyeballs, clicks, and ad revenue. The newsies ask these total, dangerous, BS questions but, then, prove that Trump is a plenty good enough leader not to fall for that trap. Newsies are often trying to get the POTUS to do something really dumb that would hurt the country so that the newsies can have a story, get eyeballs, clicks, and dollars. You just fell for the newsie BS. It's DANGEROUS stuff, stands to get people killed, could cancel a solid democratic election, and seriously hurt our country. It could start a second civil war -- Flake is doing his best at that. Don't fall for that newsie stuff. We are both US citizens: We need to keep the newsies from inciting violence and a civil war and ruining our country.
  - heartbreak 9y ago
    I wish you would stop calling me a sheep. Have a nice day.

graycat 9y ago

> Explain to me how this is a self-fulfilling narrative? It has nothing to do with the news media and everything to do with the President himself on TV and Twitter. Trump has done just nothing at all wrong. You pointed to nothing, no quotes, no references. On Twitter, I "follow" just three people, and Trump is one of them; so, I've likely seen all his Tweets. They all seem fine to me. If you have a bad Tweet, then cough it up and say what's wrong with it. Who the heck has talked, manipulated you into thinking that Trump has done anything wrong? A lot of newsies have been trying for 2+ years to find any dirt on Trump, and so far the worst they found that has any credibility was something about two scoops of ice cream. No, he never said he grabbed a woman by the short hair. He, maybe just as a mentor, just told a younger man that, from a powerful man, some women would permit it. That knowledge didn't take much, just watch a certain TV show or see the associated book: JFK actually did just that, to NJ debutante, 19, engaged to be married, from Miss Porter's School where Jackie Kennedy went, White House intern, Miss Mimi Alford as at http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/03/16305081-white-house-intern-speaks-about-jfk-affair-i-was-sort-of-swept-into-this-web http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/03/16305081-whit... and it's been on TV at least once, and Miss Alford wrote a book about it. Actually, in fact, on the NBC tape, that's ALL Trump told that man. ALL. Did some nasty newsies convince you of something else? Sin, crime, sexual molestation, sexism, violence, etc.? Did you get manipulated? All Trump did was relate what was on TV and in the book Miss Alford wrote about what JFK did. Did you get fooled on this one? No, the Trump campaign did not "collude" with the Russians to help Trump win the election. Daily, the NYT, WaPo, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc. put out all the nasty guesses, accusations, theories, gossip, grab people by the heart, the gut, below the belt, always below the shoulders, never between the ears, etc. against Trump they can find, but so far the worst they have is the two scoops of ice cream. Have the newsies convinced you of some really bad stuff about Trump? They gave you really good evidence, right? Or did you let them manipulate you? If you have something serious and solid against Trump, then I'm all ears. You have been manipulated, led around by the nose.