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I suspect that you're getting downvoted for saying something that may not have a lot of credibility. Thiel doesn't carry a lot of responsibility for putting Tru

by PakG1 9y ago

I suspect that you're getting downvoted for saying something that may not have a lot of credibility. Thiel doesn't carry a lot of responsibility for putting Trump into office. To say so overestimates the pull he, an openly gay man, had with Trump's base. I bet most of Trump's base don't even know who Thiel is. Thiel was simply one of the only Silicon Valley guys to recognize that the prosperity experienced by major American urban centers was not being experienced by the rest of America.

keganunderwood 9y ago
From what I've seen of t_d, a lot of the people there were not openly anti-gay before the election. There has been quite a bit of pruning since so I am not sure about now.
dsfyu404ed 9y ago
>Thiel was simply one of the only Silicon Valley guys to recognize that the prosperity experienced by major American urban centers was not being experienced by the rest of America. He was rich enough to not get hurt for opening his mouth in a way that made it clear that on certain issues he takes the same side as people the majority in CA consider to be a bunch of hicks. There's plenty of people in SV (or NYC, or DC for that matter) who come from less prosperous places. They'll just keep quit rather than let people know what their opinions are because that's how you get ahead when your opinions are not those of the majority.
andriesm 9y ago
I dunno if Thiel has sway or not, but I thought his short speech at the rnc was riveting and one of the most inspirational messages that really spoke to the time, and of course aimed to reposition the right as pro gay.
- thanatropism 9y ago
  His short speech at the RNC was exciting, but too emotional (despite not being emotional in content). I was surprised he was willing to risk the impact to his business reputation while _not_ being able to articulate his case clearly.
- ZeroGravitas 9y ago
  Something I've wondered about that speech: He said something like "who cares what bathroom people use", and got a cheer. In context it was reasonably obvious to me he was saying "economic issues are important, stop wasting your time on attacking minority groups". But it got a big cheer, and I wonder how many people in the audience were cheering for what I heard, and how many were cheering for the equally plausible interpretation that Democrats should stop worrying about which bathrooms people got to use, and just let the right wing do what it pleased. I also wonder if it was intentionally ambigous. He could have said "Just let people use the bathrooms they want to" or similar if he wanted to be clear. Was he worried that would go down worse?
hsod 9y ago
He also donated 1.25 million dollars: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/technology/peter-thiel-donald-j-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/technology/peter-thiel-do...

by PakG1 9y ago

keganunderwood 9y ago

From what I've seen of t_d, a lot of the people there were not openly anti-gay before the election. There has been quite a bit of pruning since so I am not sure about now.

dsfyu404ed 9y ago

>Thiel was simply one of the only Silicon Valley guys to recognize that the prosperity experienced by major American urban centers was not being experienced by the rest of America. He was rich enough to not get hurt for opening his mouth in a way that made it clear that on certain issues he takes the same side as people the majority in CA consider to be a bunch of hicks. There's plenty of people in SV (or NYC, or DC for that matter) who come from less prosperous places. They'll just keep quit rather than let people know what their opinions are because that's how you get ahead when your opinions are not those of the majority.

andriesm 9y ago

I dunno if Thiel has sway or not, but I thought his short speech at the rnc was riveting and one of the most inspirational messages that really spoke to the time, and of course aimed to reposition the right as pro gay.

thanatropism 9y ago
His short speech at the RNC was exciting, but too emotional (despite not being emotional in content). I was surprised he was willing to risk the impact to his business reputation while _not_ being able to articulate his case clearly.
ZeroGravitas 9y ago
Something I've wondered about that speech: He said something like "who cares what bathroom people use", and got a cheer. In context it was reasonably obvious to me he was saying "economic issues are important, stop wasting your time on attacking minority groups". But it got a big cheer, and I wonder how many people in the audience were cheering for what I heard, and how many were cheering for the equally plausible interpretation that Democrats should stop worrying about which bathrooms people got to use, and just let the right wing do what it pleased. I also wonder if it was intentionally ambigous. He could have said "Just let people use the bathrooms they want to" or similar if he wanted to be clear. Was he worried that would go down worse?

hsod 9y ago

He also donated 1.25 million dollars: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/technology/peter-thiel-donald-j-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/technology/peter-thiel-do...