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I really want to get into Clojure, but everything I've read suggests that I'll have to learn Emacs to do it. Does anyone think giving up Vim for a few months is

by aphyr 16y ago

I really want to get into Clojure, but everything I've read suggests that I'll have to learn Emacs to do it. Does anyone think giving up Vim for a few months is worth it?

FlemishBeeCycle 16y ago
There's a few scripts to help you out: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2501 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2501 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2531 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2531
SkyMarshal 16y ago
You can modify Emacs to mimic Vim, which might be help you bridge the gap: http://www.sanityinc.com/articles/vim-vs-emacs http://www.sanityinc.com/articles/vim-vs-emacs
tsuraan 16y ago
I've been using clojure for a while now (nothing huge LOC-wise, but it's a pretty significant part a large system). I use vim, and haven't had any troubles. The clojure REPL doesn't seem to have readline support, but it works fine with the rlwrap program. I've been meaning to learn emacs to try out the niftier select and execute functionality that it has, but vim does work for me.
TallGuyShort 16y ago
I still use exclusively Vim for all my clojure coding. I have Vim in one window (with VimClojure for syntax highlighting and some other features), a REPL in another (for quick experimenting), and my ant script in another for compiling and testing the whole thing. It's not as integrated as SLIME and emacs, but I don't feel like my tools are slowing me down significantly.
- frognibble 16y ago
  This is exactly how I work with Clojure. Emacs is not required to develop in Clojure.
- jgracin 16y ago
  With Emacs(w/paredit)+SLIME you would be doing "interactive development" which is really a fundamentally different and better way of using Lisp. I cannot recommend it enough.
kuszi 16y ago
You can even try it online: http://ideone.com/l7Nqw http://ideone.com/l7Nqw
technomancy 16y ago
I'm a huge Emacs fan, but I'd recommend against learning Emacs and Clojure at the same time. While the tight REPL integration can be difficult to set up in vim, you can use a separate REPL/editor environment to get going, and then ease yourself into a more integrated environment once you get a little more familiar with things.
peregrine 16y ago
This is a great place to look for several IDE's and guides to getting started with VIM. http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started

by aphyr 16y ago

I really want to get into Clojure, but everything I've read suggests that I'll have to learn Emacs to do it. Does anyone think giving up Vim for a few months is worth it?

FlemishBeeCycle 16y ago

There's a few scripts to help you out: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2501 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2501 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2531 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2531

SkyMarshal 16y ago

You can modify Emacs to mimic Vim, which might be help you bridge the gap: http://www.sanityinc.com/articles/vim-vs-emacs http://www.sanityinc.com/articles/vim-vs-emacs

tsuraan 16y ago

I've been using clojure for a while now (nothing huge LOC-wise, but it's a pretty significant part a large system). I use vim, and haven't had any troubles. The clojure REPL doesn't seem to have readline support, but it works fine with the rlwrap program. I've been meaning to learn emacs to try out the niftier select and execute functionality that it has, but vim does work for me.

TallGuyShort 16y ago

I still use exclusively Vim for all my clojure coding. I have Vim in one window (with VimClojure for syntax highlighting and some other features), a REPL in another (for quick experimenting), and my ant script in another for compiling and testing the whole thing. It's not as integrated as SLIME and emacs, but I don't feel like my tools are slowing me down significantly.

frognibble 16y ago
This is exactly how I work with Clojure. Emacs is not required to develop in Clojure.
jgracin 16y ago
With Emacs(w/paredit)+SLIME you would be doing "interactive development" which is really a fundamentally different and better way of using Lisp. I cannot recommend it enough.

kuszi 16y ago

You can even try it online: http://ideone.com/l7Nqw http://ideone.com/l7Nqw

technomancy 16y ago

I'm a huge Emacs fan, but I'd recommend against learning Emacs and Clojure at the same time. While the tight REPL integration can be difficult to set up in vim, you can use a separate REPL/editor environment to get going, and then ease yourself into a more integrated environment once you get a little more familiar with things.

peregrine 16y ago

This is a great place to look for several IDE's and guides to getting started with VIM. http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started