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Calling the president a Nazi isn't a moderate position.

spodek 9y ago
It is if the president is. I'm not saying our current one is, just that logically, if the president is, then it would be moderate to describe him as he is. Also, a comparison to them in the 1930s, say pre-Kristalnacht, is different and may have more relevance than a comparison to them in the mid-40s.
- emilsedgh 9y ago
  I personally dont't think Trump is a Nazi. But it seems he doesnt mind Nazi support and is not willing to piss them off if it costs him their vote.
  - robin_reala 9y ago
    He’s not a Nazi because he’s not a member of the National Socialist party, but is he a fascist? Umberto Eco’s definition from the mid 90s is worth reading, as most if not all of the characteristics can quite easily be applied to the Trump presidency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto...
    - pyroinferno 9y ago
      >Disagreement Is Treason Isn't that what the left is doing by trying to silence the alt-right right now? Now that I agree with the alt-right, honestly I despise them, but leftists who call the alt-right fascists and want to censor their views for being "Unamerican" really need to look in the mirror.
- diryawish 9y ago
  Fair enough. But calling the current president a Nazi is not moderate. Israel would not treat him the way they do if he was. A post-WW2 Nazi or similar party is impossible and unsustainable especially in the US and most EU countries. Erdogan is the closest leader in the world at this point.
  - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
    He's not a Nazi, but he is a racist. The Birther movement was purely racist, as was his witch hunt against the Central Park Five. And, guess who loves him? White supremacists in all forms. Do you think he did anything to garner their approval?
heisenbit 9y ago
Yeah, technically more correct would be Al Sharpton position which is Trump Traffics in Racism. Trump is beholden to what he believes is his base: Alt-Right and Putin. He does not and never had really a position but is begging for applause from reliable sources.

It is if the president is. I'm not saying our current one is, just that logically, if the president is, then it would be moderate to describe him as he is. Also, a comparison to them in the 1930s, say pre-Kristalnacht, is different and may have more relevance than a comparison to them in the mid-40s.

emilsedgh 9y ago
I personally dont't think Trump is a Nazi. But it seems he doesnt mind Nazi support and is not willing to piss them off if it costs him their vote.
- robin_reala 9y ago
  He’s not a Nazi because he’s not a member of the National Socialist party, but is he a fascist? Umberto Eco’s definition from the mid 90s is worth reading, as most if not all of the characteristics can quite easily be applied to the Trump presidency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto...
  - pyroinferno 9y ago
    >Disagreement Is Treason Isn't that what the left is doing by trying to silence the alt-right right now? Now that I agree with the alt-right, honestly I despise them, but leftists who call the alt-right fascists and want to censor their views for being "Unamerican" really need to look in the mirror.
diryawish 9y ago
Fair enough. But calling the current president a Nazi is not moderate. Israel would not treat him the way they do if he was. A post-WW2 Nazi or similar party is impossible and unsustainable especially in the US and most EU countries. Erdogan is the closest leader in the world at this point.
- grasshopperpurp 9y ago
  He's not a Nazi, but he is a racist. The Birther movement was purely racist, as was his witch hunt against the Central Park Five. And, guess who loves him? White supremacists in all forms. Do you think he did anything to garner their approval?

heisenbit 9y ago

Yeah, technically more correct would be Al Sharpton position which is Trump Traffics in Racism. Trump is beholden to what he believes is his base: Alt-Right and Putin. He does not and never had really a position but is begging for applause from reliable sources.