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As a designer I think we need to learn to cope better with stuff like 99 designs. Good designers don't really have a ton of trouble getting work in metro areas

by wdewind 16y ago

As a designer I think we need to learn to cope better with stuff like 99 designs. Good designers don't really have a ton of trouble getting work in metro areas right now, and to disregard how much better something like 99 designs can be (CAN be) for many clients is ignorant. Let's not be the RIAA in the face of distributed change.

ismarc 16y ago
I think the problem is not with designers (or developers, or producers, sound engineers, etc.) it's that the companies that run the "contests" don't have a real budget, don't understand the work that goes into creating the work and want the "best bang for the buck" by just saying "give me something". Also, because design work is such a creative/customer specific product, most design "contests" are work that can't reasonably be used elsewhere, if the contest even allows you to retain full rights to the work. This is an effective devaluing of the work that's produced by people who are clueless about the real work/time involved. Compare the Netflix contest to any contest on 99designs.
- wdewind 16y ago
  >the companies that run the "contests" don't have a real budget, don't understand the work that goes into creating the work and want the "best bang for the buck" by just saying "give me something" I hate this market, and as a designer I choose not to work with it. But it's there, and it should be served. Designers need to stop acting like 99designs takes food out of their mouths. It's just a different market. If you are really being hurt by 99 designs then you aren't a good designer.
  - lox 16y ago
    Absolutely, I look at it as creating a new segment of the market, much like crowdsourcing did for stock photography. 99designs main customers are small businesses that wouldn't otherwise have been able to justify what they view as a risky spend on design.

by wdewind 16y ago

ismarc 16y ago

I think the problem is not with designers (or developers, or producers, sound engineers, etc.) it's that the companies that run the "contests" don't have a real budget, don't understand the work that goes into creating the work and want the "best bang for the buck" by just saying "give me something". Also, because design work is such a creative/customer specific product, most design "contests" are work that can't reasonably be used elsewhere, if the contest even allows you to retain full rights to the work. This is an effective devaluing of the work that's produced by people who are clueless about the real work/time involved. Compare the Netflix contest to any contest on 99designs.

wdewind 16y ago
>the companies that run the "contests" don't have a real budget, don't understand the work that goes into creating the work and want the "best bang for the buck" by just saying "give me something" I hate this market, and as a designer I choose not to work with it. But it's there, and it should be served. Designers need to stop acting like 99designs takes food out of their mouths. It's just a different market. If you are really being hurt by 99 designs then you aren't a good designer.
- lox 16y ago
  Absolutely, I look at it as creating a new segment of the market, much like crowdsourcing did for stock photography. 99designs main customers are small businesses that wouldn't otherwise have been able to justify what they view as a risky spend on design.