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Alright, let's start at the beginning. Do you know what a search warrant is, why it is needed, and what it entails? I'm going to assume you don't. It is a wr
by KGIII 9y ago
Alright, let's start at the beginning.
Do you know what a search warrant is, why it is needed, and what it entails?
I'm going to assume you don't.
It is a writ to search a specific place for specific evidence. Note: you can be prosecuted for incidental discoveries over the course of a lawful search.
It is needed because it is a right. The government has limited rights. They can only search when there is probable cause. Probable cause is when a reasonable person would judge there to be a high probability of discovering evidence in the search.
It entails a very specific process in which a judge decides the scope of the warrant. As mentioned above, it is for specific evidence and areas. In this case, those would be the IP addresses of those making threats.
That's pretty much it. This warrant is going to be found to be overly broad and not pass muster. That's a good thing.
I realize you're scared. That's okay. What's not okay is asking/demanding others cede their rights to make you feel less scared. There are no terrorists that are going to try to harm you. Of all those people on the site, only a few have violated the law.
I can't take away your rights because I am scared. I'm glad and I wouldn't do it if I could. We only take rights away when there's an articulated, and reasonable, suspicion of unlawful activity.
Go ahead, get the account information for those who made threats. The next judge is going to rule the warrant overly broad, anyhow. Good on the hosting company, though sad that this has become almost routine.
- vorotato 9y agoIt's folks like Dingo_bat that remind me as frustrating as libertarian capitalists are, I should just be grateful they aren't the authoritarian capitalists. Private industry rights are more important than your rights is substantially less terrifying than private industry and government rights are more important than your rights.
- KGIII 9y agoI am just going to have to assume they haven't thought it through. It's not limited to just one part of the political spectrum, however. This veers off-topic, but it ties back in. About three months ago, on a different site, I had a conversation with a very liberal lady. The conversation was about someone being detained for failing to unlock their encrypted drive when demanded to do so by the judge. The thing is, she wanted him to be held in perpetuity, because she was certain he was a pedophile. No, she was certain - and repeated this, over and over again. Granted, the guy is probably a pedophile. However, no evidence suggests he is. He just refuses to unlock his drive for the investigation. She wants him to be detained until he has proven himself innocent. She further insisted that all allegations should result in the accused needing to prove their innocence. You know... I served as a Marine. That's how I paid for college. Sometimes, I'm pretty frustrated too. This sort of thinking, on all ends of the spectrum, isn't going to help us have a functional justice system, a system that is needed for a democracy. And, yes, I am on the political left. I just call it as I see it. No, I don't have a solution. I don't have the answers. Damned right, it's frustrating.