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To be fair, I can't speak to opioids but cannabis and natural psychedelics are already very simple to produce. The main reason not to try them isn't because the
by PeanutCurry 9y ago
To be fair, I can't speak to opioids but cannabis and natural psychedelics are already very simple to produce. The main reason not to try them isn't because they're hard it's because of not wanting to fail a drug test for work or not wanting to be arrested for possession.
- mrob 9y agoIt's much more difficult than biosynthesis of alcohol, which is so easy you can do it by accident. Leave a container of fruit juice uncovered and wild yeast will most likely ferment it. If you add dried yeast and cover it with an airlock (which can be as simple as a lose snap-fit lid (snap-fit so it won't get stuck and explode)) and it will most likely taste acceptable too. Fermenting alcohol is so easy that there's no practical way to enforce alcohol prohibition. It takes no specialized equipment (lights etc.), it's easy to hide, and you might be able to pass it off as an accident if you get caught. If you could make other drugs in the same way it would become very hard to enforce their prohibition.
- dalbasal 9y agoMany drugs are within that general level of simplicity to produce. They're plants and fungi, and growing them is as simple as regular plants and fungi. Psilocybin, mescaline, cannabis, even opium is pretty simple. The details difficulties are related to regulations, or stealth (for illegal producers).
- mrob 9y agoI grow regular food plants (chiles), and it's not that simple. You have germination, irrigation, fertilization, repotting, pest control, weeding, etc. If you just carelessly throw some seeds on the ground then they probably won't germinate or they'll get eaten by animals and you'll get nothing. If you forget to water them they'll die. You have to check them every day if you want them to grow reliably. Making wine is as easy as buying a carton of grape juice, adding some dried yeast, and covering the top with some aluminum foil. It won't be good wine, but it will be recognizably wine. People living under prohibition would be happy with it. If you try growing chiles with that level of effort you'll get nothing edible.
- __alias 9y agoEh, mescaline, weed and (sort of) Psilocybin) is fairly easy. I guess the difference is it takes a lot longer to grow these things rather over fermenting alcohol.
- PeanutCurry 9y agoThese are the two I was thinking of. If you're trying to optimize for quality then there's difficulty. But simply hiding a weed plant and getting a yield isn't difficult unless you live in a colder climate. Shrooms are so easy people grow them in shoeboxes. Edit: When I said two I failed to notice mescaline. I haven't done much reading on mescaline.
- pantalaimon 9y agoPeople in California grow huge San Pedro cacti in their garden, but that doesn't work so well when you are living in a colder climate.
- Retric 9y agoWeed is often grown by people tossing seeds on federal or someone else's land then coming back to collect when grown and doing nothing else. For a while it was in WV's top 3 crops because there was so much unused land for people to do this. Like all crops they benifit from care, but the trade off of ~zero time, effort, and risk for some value is the appeal.
- jessaustin 9y agoEh, peppers are harder than lots of other vegetables. If you have good results with them, you'd have no problem with tomatoes, turnips, onions, radishes, lettuce, etc. I've never grown an "illegal" plant, but you may not be able to generalize from chili peppers to e.g. pot.
- 3131s 9y agoEver grown mushrooms? I wouldn't call it easy. It takes a few months and a lot of preparation, plus you need a pressure cooker and some other equipment.
- collyw 9y agoThere are kits available with the sterilization part done for you.
- jameskegel 9y agoOr just move to pasteurized hay, which is much more lenient
- Govindae 9y agoMy friend said that pressure cooking popcorn kernels as an incubation medium allowed fast mycillial colonization. He could shake the jars every couple days to speed up the process. He also claimed pasteurized hay made an excellent growth substrate.
- bfuller 9y agothe hard part is keeping everything clean once youve inoculated
- PeanutCurry 9y agoA lot of that is just time though. A pressure cooker isn't a difficult item to acquire and it's hardly suspicious. Even in America, it's mainly difficult in states like California and that's only because of the increased challenge to acquire spores. Most states in the USA have a weird loophole where you can purchase spores but the shrooms themselves are an illegal good. There are people who grow them in shoeboxes from kits. As long as you're willing to compromise quality in exchange for simply producing some amount of quantity you can get mushrooms with relatively little risk.
- celticninja 9y agoi believe a pressure cooker is optional for sterlization, and by all accounts it is easy, much easier than growing cannabis, which can be a bit more labor intensive
- rm_-rf_slash 9y agoLSD is not trivial to make but once you can, you can produce an entire country's supply in no time, given the minuscule dosage. The United States is estimated to have very few acid makers, with roughly a half-dozen accountable for most of the country's supply.
- jameskegel 9y ago1P-LSD is currently legal and mass produced for cheap online. Much what we see is this.
- fsargent 9y agoSince 1P-LSD is theorized to be a prodrug of LSD, it would likely be illegal in the United States under the Federal Analogue Act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Analogue_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Analogue_Act
- jameskegel 9y ago> likely be illegal It's not illegal.
- fjert 9y agoI always had the impression that psilocybin in particular either was not tested for or does not stay in your body long enough to be tested for. My only concern with psilocybin mushrooms would be their legality, but IIRC, it is not illegal to possess spores for them.