4 ms·

Just for the record, this is in his bio: >you can be accosted for publicly engaging a wrongthinker. I don't think he cares about rationality, let alone having

by kaden 9y ago

Just for the record, this is in his bio: >you can be accosted for publicly engaging a wrongthinker. I don't think he cares about rationality, let alone having the fortitude to say what he means. "Everyone else is wrong and when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984."

epistasis 9y ago
I agree that he's probably an impossible case. He's too arrogant and far too emotionally weak if he thinks public rebuke of ideas is "accosting." But we are in a public space, and the commonly-endorsed tactic of ignoring trolls has the unfortunate effect of letting this sort of pablum spread. I care about not letting stupid ideas and weak thinking persist without the easy counterarguments. When I say "mental virus" I really mean "mental virus." It's a sickness that only reason can defeat.
microcolonel 9y ago
> when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984. Well, it seems like my concerns are well-founded; because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why, I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon. Now imagine somebody else who doesn't feel comfortable with the (fairly mild here, thank you folks) level of hostility that I do; that mild-mannered person is the one I want to have an outlet for their thoughts so they don't stew in their own heads.
- kaden 9y ago
  > because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why Technically I read the thread and then looked at your profile. Because people such as yourself always have some self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectual nonsense in your bio that -- to everyone else -- clearly displays your ego, irrationality, and how wholly unprepared you are to seriously discuss matters in a forthright manner without trying to weasel your way around the topic. It's almost absurdly comical at how consistently you find such silliness. >I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon. I'm quoting this just to draw attention to it.
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    > Because people such as yourself always have some self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectual nonsense in your bio Well, I added it a few days ago because somebody found a way to contact me, and it made them feel less isolated. They told me that I should have my email address in my HN bio with some words of encouragement (it's meant to be playful, if you didn't detect), so I added it. If you get the impression that it's there to play into my ego, well, that's less of a problem than the crushing loneliness of even one person. > that -- to everyone else -- clearly displays your ego, irrationality, and how wholly unprepared you are to seriously discuss matters in a forthright manner without trying to weasel your way around the topic. What have I not been forthright about? I am here, a fully identifiable human being. I was making conversation in the wee hours of the morning, and you two took your egg accounts and started assassinating my character. I did not resort to the same tactics, and I tried to answer each jab and remark as clearly as I could manage. I made sure not to make it personal. > I'm quoting this just to draw attention to it. Perhaps we can all sound cryptic sometimes. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I'm saying that if you have it in for me, and (for example) you have direct access to a blacklist of some sort (usually reserved for management, and not peons), it'll do me no good that you're upset and willing to look for my bio.
  - dang 9y ago
    We've banned this account for violating the site guidelines.
    - kaden 9y ago
      lol what. Mine or his? Because if it's mine that seems pretty baseless. Also your other message is actually kind of scary, where you banned another account: >We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines and using HN for political/ideological flamewar, which is not a legit use of this site. Would you please not create accounts to do this with? Are other admins aware of your actions and "justifications" (that anyone can plainly see through)?

by kaden 9y ago

epistasis 9y ago

I agree that he's probably an impossible case. He's too arrogant and far too emotionally weak if he thinks public rebuke of ideas is "accosting." But we are in a public space, and the commonly-endorsed tactic of ignoring trolls has the unfortunate effect of letting this sort of pablum spread. I care about not letting stupid ideas and weak thinking persist without the easy counterarguments. When I say "mental virus" I really mean "mental virus." It's a sickness that only reason can defeat.

microcolonel 9y ago

> when I get called an asshole it's clearly because it's 1984. Well, it seems like my concerns are well-founded; because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why, I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon. Now imagine somebody else who doesn't feel comfortable with the (fairly mild here, thank you folks) level of hostility that I do; that mild-mannered person is the one I want to have an outlet for their thoughts so they don't stew in their own heads.

kaden 9y ago
> because the first thing you did was look at my profile. Clearly you were looking to investigate me in some fashion, who knows why Technically I read the thread and then looked at your profile. Because people such as yourself always have some self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectual nonsense in your bio that -- to everyone else -- clearly displays your ego, irrationality, and how wholly unprepared you are to seriously discuss matters in a forthright manner without trying to weasel your way around the topic. It's almost absurdly comical at how consistently you find such silliness. >I'm sure it'll do me no good if you're more than a peon. I'm quoting this just to draw attention to it.
- microcolonel 9y ago
  > Because people such as yourself always have some self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectual nonsense in your bio Well, I added it a few days ago because somebody found a way to contact me, and it made them feel less isolated. They told me that I should have my email address in my HN bio with some words of encouragement (it's meant to be playful, if you didn't detect), so I added it. If you get the impression that it's there to play into my ego, well, that's less of a problem than the crushing loneliness of even one person. > that -- to everyone else -- clearly displays your ego, irrationality, and how wholly unprepared you are to seriously discuss matters in a forthright manner without trying to weasel your way around the topic. What have I not been forthright about? I am here, a fully identifiable human being. I was making conversation in the wee hours of the morning, and you two took your egg accounts and started assassinating my character. I did not resort to the same tactics, and I tried to answer each jab and remark as clearly as I could manage. I made sure not to make it personal. > I'm quoting this just to draw attention to it. Perhaps we can all sound cryptic sometimes. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I'm saying that if you have it in for me, and (for example) you have direct access to a blacklist of some sort (usually reserved for management, and not peons), it'll do me no good that you're upset and willing to look for my bio.
- dang 9y ago
  We've banned this account for violating the site guidelines.
  - kaden 9y ago
    lol what. Mine or his? Because if it's mine that seems pretty baseless. Also your other message is actually kind of scary, where you banned another account: >We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines and using HN for political/ideological flamewar, which is not a legit use of this site. Would you please not create accounts to do this with? Are other admins aware of your actions and "justifications" (that anyone can plainly see through)?