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The single biggest issue in healthcare IT is that biologists want less than nothing to do with IT. They actively run from it, despise it, ridicule it, anything

The single biggest issue in healthcare IT is that biologists want less than nothing to do with IT. They actively run from it, despise it, ridicule it, anything to avoid dealing with it. Source: I'm seeing the effects right now in a major EMR rollout. The entire beauracracy is avoidant.

bsder 9y ago
Um, for good reason? Politically, healthcare IT is underfunded and radioactive. IT in healthcare can only cost money and cause problems. The only question is whether it costs a little (everything is running, sort of) or a lot (FDA shutting you down with criminal charges). Until a few more situations like St Jude pop up and punish the stock price and CEO's bonus, healthcare IT will continue to suck. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/business/dealbook/hedge-fund-and-cybersecurity-firm-team-up-to-short-sell-device-maker.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/business/dealbook/hedge-f...
epistasis 9y ago
Biologists don't deal with EMRs, healthcare professionals do. And have you seen the typical EMR? Is there any wonder? These are worse than the typical in-house "enterprise" "webapp" and have made data entry an absolute hassle, a complex nightmare, worse than the days of green-screen vt100. The engineers/managers that produce these beasts are some of the worst villains in healthcare, IMHO. Absolute scammers that take ridiculous amounts of cash to deliver substandard products that make the lives of everyone worse. Just look at the rates of data export for patients to see how terrible EMR providers are. It's an offense to software engineering. And then you have the software people blaming the users. Yes, the users. Clearly they're the ones who are at fault for not enjoying their dogfood.
- killjoywashere 9y ago
  > Biologists don't deal with EMRs, healthcare professionals do. Healthcare professionals are a subset of biologists. But outside of computational biology and a few odds and ends (electrophysiology comes to mind), I have seen precious little evidence throughout the range of biologists of anyone having any interest in math. And I am about as close to basic science as any physician can get.
  - mo78 9y ago
    So what? Are you sitting and reading Anatomy textbooks in your free time? Who cares if they are interested in math or not. This is a highly obnoxious viewpoint and its no wonder to me they aren't interested in dealing with you.
  - ubernostrum 9y ago
    Healthcare professionals are a subset of biologists. The ones who keep the records aren't. The people who actually record everything in a form for submission are, in my experience, rarely any form of licensed clinical practitioner. And "interest in math" seems orthogonal to your original concern.

bsder 9y ago

Um, for good reason? Politically, healthcare IT is underfunded and radioactive. IT in healthcare can only cost money and cause problems. The only question is whether it costs a little (everything is running, sort of) or a lot (FDA shutting you down with criminal charges). Until a few more situations like St Jude pop up and punish the stock price and CEO's bonus, healthcare IT will continue to suck. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/business/dealbook/hedge-fund-and-cybersecurity-firm-team-up-to-short-sell-device-maker.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/business/dealbook/hedge-f...

epistasis 9y ago

Biologists don't deal with EMRs, healthcare professionals do. And have you seen the typical EMR? Is there any wonder? These are worse than the typical in-house "enterprise" "webapp" and have made data entry an absolute hassle, a complex nightmare, worse than the days of green-screen vt100. The engineers/managers that produce these beasts are some of the worst villains in healthcare, IMHO. Absolute scammers that take ridiculous amounts of cash to deliver substandard products that make the lives of everyone worse. Just look at the rates of data export for patients to see how terrible EMR providers are. It's an offense to software engineering. And then you have the software people blaming the users. Yes, the users. Clearly they're the ones who are at fault for not enjoying their dogfood.

killjoywashere 9y ago
> Biologists don't deal with EMRs, healthcare professionals do. Healthcare professionals are a subset of biologists. But outside of computational biology and a few odds and ends (electrophysiology comes to mind), I have seen precious little evidence throughout the range of biologists of anyone having any interest in math. And I am about as close to basic science as any physician can get.
- mo78 9y ago
  So what? Are you sitting and reading Anatomy textbooks in your free time? Who cares if they are interested in math or not. This is a highly obnoxious viewpoint and its no wonder to me they aren't interested in dealing with you.
- ubernostrum 9y ago
  Healthcare professionals are a subset of biologists. The ones who keep the records aren't. The people who actually record everything in a form for submission are, in my experience, rarely any form of licensed clinical practitioner. And "interest in math" seems orthogonal to your original concern.