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> This is only true for apartment dwellers (for now). People who live in houses typically charge at home. In Germany, over 65% of people rent. So, the supermaj
by kuschku 9y ago
> This is only true for apartment dwellers (for now). People who live in houses typically charge at home.
In Germany, over 65% of people rent. So, the supermajority would be affected by this.
EDIT: I meant "live in rented apartments". "Miete" implies renting an apartment here, usually.
- chrisseaton 9y agoWhy can't you charge in a house that you rent instead of own?
- mikestew 9y agoBecause the landlord might take issue with you installing a 220V charger in the house. Why, I would have no idea, since it would seem to add (a minuscule) value to the house. Wait a minute, it's Germany, don't y'all already have 220V/240V/whatever it takes? In which case, yeah, I guess you could just plug into an outlet and charge just as quickly as I do in my American garage with its special charger because our outlets are 110V.
- chrisseaton 9y agoI heard that's why Americans don't have electric kettles either - takes too long to boil on 110 v.
- 35bge57dtjku 9y agoIt takes 2 1/2 minutes to microwave a coffee cup full of water to hotter than I need it.
- derefr 9y agoCanada has 110v and electric kettles. America apparently just doesn't care for tea (and/or have much of the subpopulations from areas of the world that got big into boiling their drinking water before chlorinated public water came about, and so who see drinking even clean unboiled tap water as gross.)
- kuschku 9y agoActually, in Europe drinking water is unchlorinated. Chlorinated water is something I'd consider as gross, by default.
- ucaetano 9y agoThat isn't true: http://www.lenntech.com/processes/disinfection/regulation-eu/eu-water-disinfection-regulation.htm http://www.lenntech.com/processes/disinfection/regulation-eu... While some countries moved away from permanent chlorination, it is still widely used, either as a permanent (all the way to the faucet) or punctual (just in the treatment facility) water disinfection solution. The UK, for example, uses permanent chlorination. So depending where you live, maybe its time to find all tap water gross.
- kuschku 9y agoOh, that's interesting. Everywhere I've been – be it Austria, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands – I’ve never seen chlorinated water.
- ams6110 9y agoWhat do they use for disinfection? Pretty sure I'm right in saying they don't flouridate the water either.
- ucaetano 9y agoThey can use UV light, ozone, or even chlorine, but they remove the chlorine before pumping the water into the system. The downside is that it requires a highly precise tuning and maintenance of the water systems to avoid any contamination downstream. Most countries don't seem to have the discipline to do so (US for example). But they do fluoridate the water, depending on the country and region. Water fluoridation's positive impact is small when the population frequently brushes their teeth with fluoridated toothpaste, and both fluoridation and chlorination don't have any negative impacts on health.
- mikestew 9y agoI just used one to make a cup of coffee. I haven't timed it, but it can't take but three minutes to reach boiling. I wish the U. S. had standardized on 220V for a lot of reasons, but the time it takes to heat a kettle of water is not one of them.
- taneq 9y agoYou mean 110V countries don't just run at double the amps? How much current can you typically pull from a 110V socket?
- joeyo 9y agoIn the US, the typical circuit max is 15 A. Some outlets provide more (e.g. 20 A for an electric clothes dryer, though those usually run on 240 V). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector#/media/File:NEMA_simplified_pins.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector#/media/File:NEM...
- js2 9y ago120V circuits are typically 15A. My kettle is 1500W.
- mikestew 9y agoYou mean 110V countries don't just run at double the amps? Nope, because then you need bigger wires, and copper ain't cheap. Whereas on the same wires if the voltage is bumped, you get a wattage bump, too. So Europe gets kettles that heat twice as quickly as U. S. kettles.
- kuschku 9y ago> Wait a minute, it's Germany, don't y'all already have 220V/240V/whatever it takes? In which case, yeah, I guess you could just plug into an outlet and charge just as quickly as I do in my American garage with its special charger because our outlets are 110V. Actually, we have up to 400V/60A for stoves and charging cars, or as main line for your apartment. But if you rent an apartment, you won't have that at your parking space.
- greglindahl 9y agoGermany doesn't have that, and will never have that? Quite a prediction. In the US, most apartments don't have chargers, but they're starting to install them. And where I live, new construction is required to have chargers in the garage.
- mikestew 9y agoGermany doesn't have that, and will never have that? Quite a prediction The only one predicting anything is you, Captain Pedantic. Parent used the present tense, which I take to mean that if I look for an apartment today in Germany, I won’t find an apartment with a charger. Tomorrow? Who knows, no one was talking about tomorrow. On top of that, speaking from a German perspective, odds are that English is a second language. But you go right ahead and pick apart that sentence for something to criticize.
- kuschku 9y agoSorry, 65% of Germans live in rented apartments was what I meant.
- oxryly1 9y agoIn my case there's no outlet in my carport. And many others in my building only have street parking.
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- chrisseaton 9y agoI don't get what you mean. If there's no off street parking then it doesn't matter if you are renting or owning you still have the same problem.
- concede_pluto 9y agoIf you buy an electric vehicle, you're committed to always having a private garage, which severely limits your rental options in the future.
- greglindahl 9y agoSome places already have on-street chargers, and who knows what the future will bring? My apartment complex has a shared charger in the garage, and new construction in my city is required to have that.