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This is a false argument. Speech is not "harming someone". This is a tactic that seems to be more common recently: trying to equate expression of ideas with vi

This is a false argument. Speech is not "harming someone". This is a tactic that seems to be more common recently: trying to equate expression of ideas with violence, and then claiming that violence is acceptable to suppress this supposed "speech violence".

glenndebacker 9y ago
As somebody who has been battling a whole part of his life against PTSD I find it very troubling that people in 2017 still believe that bs that you can only harm people when you use fysical violence.
- nippples 9y ago
  I agree. The job witch-hunt at conservatives in the IT industry is pretty harmful too.
- bkeroack 9y ago
  My sympathies for your condition, but I regret to inform you that the rest of the world does not revolve around you and your symptoms. Speech is not violence harming you, however much you might want to claim it as such.
walterstucco 9y ago
> This is a false argument. Speech is not "harming someone". it is indeed! "This article reflects the tremendous interest in the freedom of information in the postwar years. The Soviet Union proposed an amendment that would deny this right to Nazi and fascist groups. This forced the drafters to discuss the question of how tolerant an already just society should be of intolerant groups like Nazis. Taking together Articles 19 and 7, they solved the dilemma by giving everyone two rights: the right to free speech (subject to the limitation of Article 29) and the right to be protected against hate speech." they're granted by The Universal Declaration of Human Rights http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/udhr/article_19.html http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/udhr/article_19.html "Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law." https://www.article19.org/pages/en/hate-speech-more.html https://www.article19.org/pages/en/hate-speech-more.html

glenndebacker 9y ago

As somebody who has been battling a whole part of his life against PTSD I find it very troubling that people in 2017 still believe that bs that you can only harm people when you use fysical violence.

nippples 9y ago
I agree. The job witch-hunt at conservatives in the IT industry is pretty harmful too.
bkeroack 9y ago
My sympathies for your condition, but I regret to inform you that the rest of the world does not revolve around you and your symptoms. Speech is not violence harming you, however much you might want to claim it as such.

walterstucco 9y ago

> This is a false argument. Speech is not "harming someone". it is indeed! "This article reflects the tremendous interest in the freedom of information in the postwar years. The Soviet Union proposed an amendment that would deny this right to Nazi and fascist groups. This forced the drafters to discuss the question of how tolerant an already just society should be of intolerant groups like Nazis. Taking together Articles 19 and 7, they solved the dilemma by giving everyone two rights: the right to free speech (subject to the limitation of Article 29) and the right to be protected against hate speech." they're granted by The Universal Declaration of Human Rights http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/udhr/article_19.html http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/udhr/article_19.html "Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law." https://www.article19.org/pages/en/hate-speech-more.html https://www.article19.org/pages/en/hate-speech-more.html