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Those are indeed shameful examples and definitely discouraging. Nonetheless, alone they are not enough to prove the point. I could go and find other cases for
by DeusExMachina 9y ago
Those are indeed shameful examples and definitely discouraging.
Nonetheless, alone they are not enough to prove the point. I could go and find other cases for the US too.
If we look, though, at the Freedom of the Press report of Freedom without Borders, the US comes after all Western Europe countries (except Italy): https://rsf.org/en/ranking https://rsf.org/en/ranking
- Meekro 9y agoIt's hard to respond to that ranking site since I can't find what factors went into the rankings. If you could be more specific on why the US should rank below Western Europe in freedom of speech/press, I could look into the specific incidents of censorship you're referring to. I can tell you that, in the US, it's extremely difficult to prevent a newspaper from publishing things the government doesn't want published (see New York Times v. United States), or for a private party to successfully sue them (see New York Times v. Sullivan). It has happened, but it's very rare and there is nothing analogous to Europe's sweeping "hate speech" laws that force newspapers to self-censor anything critical of migrants.
- DeusExMachina 9y agoOn this page there are their criteria: https://rsf.org/en/detailed-methodology https://rsf.org/en/detailed-methodology The thing is, what you say about this kind of law is probably true. But freedom of speech goes further than that and, as you mentioned in your original comment, it's not just a matter of laws.