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This same argument could be made for gay couples who want service for their gay wedding. We already set the precedent that a business cannot refuse service for
by ManFromUranus 9y ago
This same argument could be made for gay couples who want service for their gay wedding. We already set the precedent that a business cannot refuse service for customers it finds objectionable. You are essentially arguing in favor of the christian bakery refusing the gay wedding cake. So I don't think you can have it both ways, you either force people to do business with those you find objectionable or you dont.
- desbest 9y agoI agree. This is what society has come to. Muslim employee in a supermarket refuses to handle bacon = okay Christian employee in a supermarket refuses bake a cake for a homosexual = not okay Free speech and anti-discrimination when it suits you, and the opposite when it suits you. The doublethink is strong.
- jacquesm 9y agoYou realize that you are equating Christians with homophobes here and there are a very large number of Christians that would strongly object to that. Muslim employee in supermarket that refuses to handle bacon: fine, plenty of others to take their place, and it only affects that person. Bigot in supermarket refusing to bake cake for homosexual: you serve the company customers at the whim of your employer, wear your bigotry for all to see and give the supermarket a bad name and you're in hot water. See how easy it is to rephrase that and not have a conflict? The problem is that you chose to phrase your example in such a way that you could - narrowly - infer doublethink but all you really managed to do is expose yourself.
- pasquinelli 9y agoDiscrimination based on sexual orientation is different from discrimination based on nazi affiliation.
- desbest 9y agoLast time I checked, most of the stormfront members and most of the alt-right aren't committing any crimes against people who are coloured, just like how homosexuals don't commit crimes against heterosexual people.
- dang 9y agoSince you seem to have rejoined Hacker News just to post ideological flamebait, I've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned on HN, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> We already set the precedent that a business cannot refuse service for customers it finds objectionable. Incorrect; we've already established in law a small set of narrow protected bases of discrimination in public accommodation. Outside of those categories (or in business relationship that are not within the scope of public accommodation, regardless of basid) a business absolutely can refuse service to customers it finds objectionable. Discrimination based on advocacy of race-based violence does not, it should be noted, fall into any of those protected categories.
- ManFromUranus 9y ago>Discrimination based on advocacy of race-based violence does not, it should be noted, fall into any of those protected categories. I agree but this policy is not applied evenly. > a business absolutely can refuse service to customers it finds objectionable. How was the gay wedding cake thing able to progress then?
- dragonwriter 9y ago> I agree but this policy is not applied evenly. What policy? > How was the gay wedding cake thing able to progress then? In a large number of states, sexual preference is a prohibited axis of discrimination in public accommodations.
- detaro 9y agoOregon had a law explicitly restricting discrimination based on sexual orientation
- _xzxj 9y agoLGBT people are a protected class, nazis are not.
- Animats 9y agoDepends on the state in the US.
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