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Yet the government can force private entities to sell a cake to a homosexual couple? The laws seem arbitrary to me.

ceejayoz 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class edit: The cake case was due to state laws, though. > No federal law requires businesses to serve all customers without regard to their sexual orientation, but 21 states have “public accommodations” laws that prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians. - http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-gays-religion-20170626-story.html http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-gays-religio...
CydeWeys 9y ago
Nazis aren't a protected class in the US.
- steveeq1 9y ago
  So if homosexuals weren't a protected group, you would support that?
  - CydeWeys 9y ago
    This is a discussion of what is legal and what isn't, no? I don't make the laws so I don't see how my views are relevant here. It's legal to refuse to do business with Nazis. That's what's at issue here.
0x4f3759df 9y ago
Some animals are more equal than others
- r00fus 9y ago
  Nice try, but how often do Nazis get beat up and killed because of their views?
dragonwriter 9y ago
> Yet the government can force private entities to sell a cake to a homosexual couple? The government equally could adopt a law prohibiting discrimination based on advocacy of race-based violence in public accommodation as several state governments have for gender preference. > Yet the government can force private entities to sell a cake to a homosexual couple? Laws reflect human preferences, which are at some level arbitrary. Apparently, many states think that discrimination against gays is a problem that needs to be addressed, whereas discrimination against violent racists is not.
JohnTHaller 9y ago
Discrimination against individuals based on gender, age, sexual orientation, etc are protected classes in many states. You're free to lobby the government to make nazis a protected class if you'd like.
jahewson 9y ago
You might want to take a look at the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It's one of the most famous pieces of legislation of the 20th century - you might have heard of it? Go read the bit about "protected classes". The law will always seem arbitrary to you as long as you are ignorant of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class edit: The cake case was due to state laws, though. > No federal law requires businesses to serve all customers without regard to their sexual orientation, but 21 states have “public accommodations” laws that prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians. - http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-gays-religion-20170626-story.html http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-gays-religio...

CydeWeys 9y ago

Nazis aren't a protected class in the US.

steveeq1 9y ago
So if homosexuals weren't a protected group, you would support that?
- CydeWeys 9y ago
  This is a discussion of what is legal and what isn't, no? I don't make the laws so I don't see how my views are relevant here. It's legal to refuse to do business with Nazis. That's what's at issue here.

0x4f3759df 9y ago

Some animals are more equal than others

r00fus 9y ago
Nice try, but how often do Nazis get beat up and killed because of their views?

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Yet the government can force private entities to sell a cake to a homosexual couple? The government equally could adopt a law prohibiting discrimination based on advocacy of race-based violence in public accommodation as several state governments have for gender preference. > Yet the government can force private entities to sell a cake to a homosexual couple? Laws reflect human preferences, which are at some level arbitrary. Apparently, many states think that discrimination against gays is a problem that needs to be addressed, whereas discrimination against violent racists is not.

JohnTHaller 9y ago

Discrimination against individuals based on gender, age, sexual orientation, etc are protected classes in many states. You're free to lobby the government to make nazis a protected class if you'd like.

jahewson 9y ago

You might want to take a look at the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It's one of the most famous pieces of legislation of the 20th century - you might have heard of it? Go read the bit about "protected classes". The law will always seem arbitrary to you as long as you are ignorant of it.