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>You can't have it both ways, that's why freedom of speech covers EVERYBODY equally. Actually, you can, that's why there are free speech exceptions in US law a

>You can't have it both ways, that's why freedom of speech covers EVERYBODY equally. Actually, you can, that's why there are free speech exceptions in US law and protected classes? Hate speech and hate crimes are a real thing. Also "ANTIFA" (it's "Antifa" lol) and BLM aren't monolithic groups - one is an ideology dedicated to fighting fascism and the other is a social justice movement consisting of many decentralized local community orgs. Neither of these are comparable to Nazis literally shouting to gas kikes in the streets and running over peaceful protesters and if you think they are, you might want to check yourself.

at-fates-hands 9y ago
>> Neither of these are comparable to Nazis literally shouting to gas kikes in the streets and running over peaceful protesters and if you think they are, you might want to check yourself. ANTIFA? By it’s very nature Antifa has demonstrated it is a hate group. It attacks Christianity. It attacks white people. It attacks the freedom of speech and assembly. It attacks the very foundation of the country that has allowed them to speak freely while trying to destroy anyone with another idea or a different perspective. Antifa is anathema to what we collectively stand for as a nation and as a people. The irony is their actions are the very EPITOME of Fascism: Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. BLM openly advocates for the murdering of white police officers. Not sure how that doesn't rise to the level of hate speech. Did you miss the youtube videos of the BLM riot in Milwaukee where the black rioters were actively looking for white people to assault and beat up? Again, how do those actions NOT rise to a hate crime??? If you had white people out trolling for Black people to assault, you'd be screaming at the top of your lungs it was a hate crime, right? >> Nazis literally shouting to gas kikes in the streets and running over peaceful protesters There were no peaceful protestors on either side. Both sides were armed, and there are images of people swinging bats at the car as it went down the street. You can't say the white nationalists were the only ones carrying weapons and looking for a violent confrontation. It was a tragedy what happened, but let's not try and act all morally superior saying one side was "demonstrating" peacefully while the other acted violent. Both sides are culpable here. >> you might want to check yourself. No check needed. If you can't see the hate groups on your own side of the fence, there is little point in arguing is there?
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themaninthedark 9y ago
Fascist just happen to include people going to a Trump rally or a milo yiannopoulos speech, right? They are all fascists. If we want to cherrypick hate speech quotes how about BLM "Pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon" https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/ https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pigs-in-... Or do you now condone shutting down BLM for hate speech? I am willing to bet that you don't. Is it fine because it is your side?

at-fates-hands 9y ago

>> Neither of these are comparable to Nazis literally shouting to gas kikes in the streets and running over peaceful protesters and if you think they are, you might want to check yourself. ANTIFA? By it’s very nature Antifa has demonstrated it is a hate group. It attacks Christianity. It attacks white people. It attacks the freedom of speech and assembly. It attacks the very foundation of the country that has allowed them to speak freely while trying to destroy anyone with another idea or a different perspective. Antifa is anathema to what we collectively stand for as a nation and as a people. The irony is their actions are the very EPITOME of Fascism: Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. BLM openly advocates for the murdering of white police officers. Not sure how that doesn't rise to the level of hate speech. Did you miss the youtube videos of the BLM riot in Milwaukee where the black rioters were actively looking for white people to assault and beat up? Again, how do those actions NOT rise to a hate crime??? If you had white people out trolling for Black people to assault, you'd be screaming at the top of your lungs it was a hate crime, right? >> Nazis literally shouting to gas kikes in the streets and running over peaceful protesters There were no peaceful protestors on either side. Both sides were armed, and there are images of people swinging bats at the car as it went down the street. You can't say the white nationalists were the only ones carrying weapons and looking for a violent confrontation. It was a tragedy what happened, but let's not try and act all morally superior saying one side was "demonstrating" peacefully while the other acted violent. Both sides are culpable here. >> you might want to check yourself. No check needed. If you can't see the hate groups on your own side of the fence, there is little point in arguing is there?

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themaninthedark 9y ago

Fascist just happen to include people going to a Trump rally or a milo yiannopoulos speech, right? They are all fascists. If we want to cherrypick hate speech quotes how about BLM "Pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon" https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pigs-in-a-blanket-chant-at-minnesota-fair-riles-police/ https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/pigs-in-... Or do you now condone shutting down BLM for hate speech? I am willing to bet that you don't. Is it fine because it is your side?