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Matrix Riot is really good.

by Torgo 9y ago

SamWhited 9y ago
Does that have anything to do with Matrix though, or just that one company implemented a nice client? Conversations for Android/XMPP is also very good. There aren't any good desktop options, unfortunately, but I don't think this is necessarily an XMPP problem (although it is a problem that should be fixed), just that all the companies that write good desktop clients for XMPP make them proprietary or locked to their specific chat service.
- nickexyz 9y ago
  https://github.com/dino/dino https://github.com/dino/dino Shows a lot of promise. Would love a nice Windows client as well though. With Mix coming, I think XMPP will become/remain pretty awesome. https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mix-010/ https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mix-010/
  - SamWhited 9y ago
    Thanks for the links; I wasn't aware ejabberd had an experimental MIX impementation! I switched to Prosody for my personal server a while back just because it was easier to setup/configure, but maybe it's time to look at ejabberd again (although I hate to run a full beam VM just for a single small server; as nice as beam is, it's still a lot of extra stuff to run on my tiny server).
    - nickexyz 9y ago
      I actually switched to Ejabberd from Prosody a few days ago! I hear you, but Ejabberd seems snappier now than from what I remember. Well worth a try, importing users from Prosody was a breeze. There aren't any client's that can handle mix yet, but I think I saw something about it at Conversations GitHub.
  - ryukafalz 9y ago
    Dino looks really cool, thanks for the link! Looks like it doesn't yet support MAM[0], but aside from that this may be the closest thing to a Conversations equivalent I've seen for the desktop. https://github.com/dino/dino/tree/master/xmpp-vala/src/module/xep https://github.com/dino/dino/tree/master/xmpp-vala/src/modul...
- DiThi 9y ago
  > or just that one company implemented a nice client? That is a huge deal. Having a de-facto reference client for all platforms with most of the features is very important. XMPP never had that. Google could have done it but they didn't. I used XMPP for more than a decade and tried everyone else to switch, but it has always been lacking in many ways in all platforms, without a safe fallback option.
- goffi 9y ago
  > There aren't any good desktop options, unfortunately, but I don't think this is necessarily an XMPP problem (although it is a problem that should be fixed), just that all the companies that write good desktop clients for XMPP make them proprietary or locked to their specific chat service. For the record, we have a working Desktop/Android client on the way, which supports file sharing, carbon, MAM, Jingle (for file transfer only so far, but voice/video is planed at some point), with unique interface, and more features to come. It is also working on web and console (TUI + CLI). UI may need improvement, help is welcome. https://www.goffi.org/blog/goffi/9ff9bb64-1e1f-4334-80e5-a86f0b6b795b https://www.goffi.org/blog/goffi/9ff9bb64-1e1f-4334-80e5-a86... and https://salut-a-toi.org/ https://salut-a-toi.org/

Matrix Riot is really good.

by Torgo 9y ago

Matrix Riot is really good.

Does that have anything to do with Matrix though, or just that one company implemented a nice client? Conversations for Android/XMPP is also very good. There aren't any good desktop options, unfortunately, but I don't think this is necessarily an XMPP problem (although it is a problem that should be fixed), just that all the companies that write good desktop clients for XMPP make them proprietary or locked to their specific chat service.

nickexyz 9y ago
https://github.com/dino/dino https://github.com/dino/dino Shows a lot of promise. Would love a nice Windows client as well though. With Mix coming, I think XMPP will become/remain pretty awesome. https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mix-010/ https://docs.ejabberd.im/tutorials/mix-010/
- SamWhited 9y ago
  Thanks for the links; I wasn't aware ejabberd had an experimental MIX impementation! I switched to Prosody for my personal server a while back just because it was easier to setup/configure, but maybe it's time to look at ejabberd again (although I hate to run a full beam VM just for a single small server; as nice as beam is, it's still a lot of extra stuff to run on my tiny server).
  - nickexyz 9y ago
    I actually switched to Ejabberd from Prosody a few days ago! I hear you, but Ejabberd seems snappier now than from what I remember. Well worth a try, importing users from Prosody was a breeze. There aren't any client's that can handle mix yet, but I think I saw something about it at Conversations GitHub.
- ryukafalz 9y ago
  Dino looks really cool, thanks for the link! Looks like it doesn't yet support MAM[0], but aside from that this may be the closest thing to a Conversations equivalent I've seen for the desktop. https://github.com/dino/dino/tree/master/xmpp-vala/src/module/xep https://github.com/dino/dino/tree/master/xmpp-vala/src/modul...
DiThi 9y ago
> or just that one company implemented a nice client? That is a huge deal. Having a de-facto reference client for all platforms with most of the features is very important. XMPP never had that. Google could have done it but they didn't. I used XMPP for more than a decade and tried everyone else to switch, but it has always been lacking in many ways in all platforms, without a safe fallback option.
goffi 9y ago
> There aren't any good desktop options, unfortunately, but I don't think this is necessarily an XMPP problem (although it is a problem that should be fixed), just that all the companies that write good desktop clients for XMPP make them proprietary or locked to their specific chat service. For the record, we have a working Desktop/Android client on the way, which supports file sharing, carbon, MAM, Jingle (for file transfer only so far, but voice/video is planed at some point), with unique interface, and more features to come. It is also working on web and console (TUI + CLI). UI may need improvement, help is welcome. https://www.goffi.org/blog/goffi/9ff9bb64-1e1f-4334-80e5-a86f0b6b795b https://www.goffi.org/blog/goffi/9ff9bb64-1e1f-4334-80e5-a86... and https://salut-a-toi.org/ https://salut-a-toi.org/