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> First we need to prevent Elsevier etc from extorting readers. So that forces them to extort authors. The extortion will ultimately be of the tax payer money.
by denzil_correa 9y ago
> First we need to prevent Elsevier etc from extorting readers. So that forces them to extort authors.
The extortion will ultimately be of the tax payer money. Authors will ask for more money during research grants citing this "open access" policy.
- gglitch 9y agoI don't presume to be aware of all the implementation details, but in the abstract, is this not a pretty excellent use of tax payer money? To support universal access to research, data, and educational materials?
- denzil_correa 9y agoTax payer money is already funded to conduct research. Why do we need to pay 2000$ to host a PDF article?
- scientist 9y agoYou do not need to pay to host a PDF article, there are platforms such as arxiv.org or zenodo.org that do this for free for you.
- mirimir 9y agoYes, but as others have said, professional advancement typically depends on publishing in the expensive journals. And that's no accident, in that predatory for-profit publishers have targeted prestigious journals for acquisition. It's the same game that drug makers play with top-selling drugs. Eventually, authors will migrate to the not-for-profit open access journals and platforms. But that will take time. Top-ranked PIs must lead the way, given that their reputations are well established, and they have tenure.
- mirimir 9y agoSupporting research is an excellent use of tax payer money. But paying monopoly rents to publish? Not so much, I think.
- wastedhours 9y agoAFAIK this is already happening in some fields, or is actually an individual line item in some grant applications.
- mirimir 9y agoI have considerable experience with this issue. For large requests, the granting entity will send a team. They check out the facilities, interview staff, and interactively dig through budgets. I suspect that there will be pushback about paying inflated amounts to publishers. Maybe the amounts are relatively small, but wouldn't PIs rather spend $50K or whatever on productive resources?