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The big thing that's been driving me away from learning is the necessary hardware/Software to create the tones I want. Rather than folk/rock, I'd like something

The big thing that's been driving me away from learning is the necessary hardware/Software to create the tones I want. Rather than folk/rock, I'd like something like the ghostly effect of https://youtu.be/mP194XwD2Wc https://youtu.be/mP194XwD2Wc . But audio hardware is expensive and isn't something I can directly research. I made a little jump a month ago and got a condensor mic and a Scarlett Solo mixer, which can do both XLR mic and 1/4 Jack for guitars. So far I've gotten it to play-back in realtime with effects in Ableton lite, but no idea on the guitar or other hardware needed to make that sound good.

disantlor 9y ago
It's a very long reverb, probably with an EQ either in the reverb effect or after to roll off all the high. Go to a guitar store with a lot of pedals or check out the Knobs videos on youtube. Find one with a long reverb time and a tone control. This could work too: https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/plugins/pitch-delay-modulation-filtering/h3000-factory https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/plugins/pitch-delay-m...
SwellJoe 9y ago
That's just a big long reverb and delay, maybe a bit of chorus, a nice guitar (a moderately nice guitar will sound very nearly as good and can be had for a few hundred bucks...a used Made-in-Mexico Tele would do the trick for $300-$400), and a soft fingerstyle playing technique. The playing style is at least as responsible for the gentleness of the sound as any of the effects or the guitar itself. The spacey/shimmery sounds come from the big reverb and maybe chorus. You can replicate those effects with lots of free or low-priced VSTs. Ableton probably includes reverb, a delay, and chorus plugin, as they're very simple to implement and pretty low overhead.
SyneRyder 9y ago
I looked through the YouTube comments on that one, and someone tracked down an interview where he describes his setup: http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/10/07/rigged-devin-townsends-massive-live-rig-piece-by-piece/ http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/10/07/rigged-devin-townsends-... Though at the very end, he says: "At home, I use a Blues Jr. and a delay pedal. :)" In terms of software, I'm not sure if reverb VSTs will help for that sound, but I've heard rave reviews for the Valhalla Vintage Verb (and Room Verb). They're $50 each, but often favorably compared with expensive reverbs on professional recordings like the Lexicon 480L. There's a free demo so you can try it out. https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-vintage-verb/ https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-vintage-verb/
- SwellJoe 9y ago
  FWIW even several free (or those included with popular audio programs) reverbs are on par with professional units of just a few years ago. The quality:cost ratio of audio recording and mixing has experienced a revolutionary change in the past decade. Watch some YouTube videos about working with reverb, delay, and other time domain effects, as well as general EQ and mixing techniques, and you can get great results without spending a dime. (Training your ear to recognize good results and getting familiar enough with the tools to achieve the sounds you want can take a lot of practice, though. No YouTube video can hone your taste...you have to listen critically to a lot of great recordings and learn to discern how they were made, by ear.)
- beat 9y ago
  I've been using Valhalla reverbs for recording for years now. I started with Valhalla Room, but mostly use Valhalla Plate now. The sound and simplicity are huge wins.
jdietrich 9y ago
You probably want Bias FX. It's designed specifically for guitar processing and is very easy to use. The standard version costs $79 and there's a 30 day free trial. https://www.positivegrid.com/bias-fx/ https://www.positivegrid.com/bias-fx/

disantlor 9y ago

It's a very long reverb, probably with an EQ either in the reverb effect or after to roll off all the high. Go to a guitar store with a lot of pedals or check out the Knobs videos on youtube. Find one with a long reverb time and a tone control. This could work too: https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/plugins/pitch-delay-modulation-filtering/h3000-factory https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/plugins/pitch-delay-m...

SwellJoe 9y ago

That's just a big long reverb and delay, maybe a bit of chorus, a nice guitar (a moderately nice guitar will sound very nearly as good and can be had for a few hundred bucks...a used Made-in-Mexico Tele would do the trick for $300-$400), and a soft fingerstyle playing technique. The playing style is at least as responsible for the gentleness of the sound as any of the effects or the guitar itself. The spacey/shimmery sounds come from the big reverb and maybe chorus. You can replicate those effects with lots of free or low-priced VSTs. Ableton probably includes reverb, a delay, and chorus plugin, as they're very simple to implement and pretty low overhead.

SyneRyder 9y ago

I looked through the YouTube comments on that one, and someone tracked down an interview where he describes his setup: http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/10/07/rigged-devin-townsends-massive-live-rig-piece-by-piece/ http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/10/07/rigged-devin-townsends-... Though at the very end, he says: "At home, I use a Blues Jr. and a delay pedal. :)" In terms of software, I'm not sure if reverb VSTs will help for that sound, but I've heard rave reviews for the Valhalla Vintage Verb (and Room Verb). They're $50 each, but often favorably compared with expensive reverbs on professional recordings like the Lexicon 480L. There's a free demo so you can try it out. https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-vintage-verb/ https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-vintage-verb/

SwellJoe 9y ago
FWIW even several free (or those included with popular audio programs) reverbs are on par with professional units of just a few years ago. The quality:cost ratio of audio recording and mixing has experienced a revolutionary change in the past decade. Watch some YouTube videos about working with reverb, delay, and other time domain effects, as well as general EQ and mixing techniques, and you can get great results without spending a dime. (Training your ear to recognize good results and getting familiar enough with the tools to achieve the sounds you want can take a lot of practice, though. No YouTube video can hone your taste...you have to listen critically to a lot of great recordings and learn to discern how they were made, by ear.)
beat 9y ago
I've been using Valhalla reverbs for recording for years now. I started with Valhalla Room, but mostly use Valhalla Plate now. The sound and simplicity are huge wins.

jdietrich 9y ago

You probably want Bias FX. It's designed specifically for guitar processing and is very easy to use. The standard version costs $79 and there's a 30 day free trial. https://www.positivegrid.com/bias-fx/ https://www.positivegrid.com/bias-fx/