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I read that article about the woman that was killed, what the actual fuck.

zimpenfish 9y ago
I only saw the headline but yeah, that was enough. Although from other Daily Stormer content I have seen, that's pretty much par for the course.
throwaway290302 9y ago
Here's the archived article (titled "Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut") for reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20170813181100/https://www.dailystormer.com/heather-heyer-woman-killed-in-road-rage-incident-was-a-fat-childless-32-year-old-slut/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170813181100/https://www.daily...
kuschku 9y ago
Honestly, it's not surprising. /r/the_donald, 4chan's /pol/ etc all had far worse responses to this situation. The article from the daily stormer, as horrible as it is, is ithe least offensive right-wing response to this that I've read yet. Everything else went even further. Now the big question is, why does reddit, a SV company, still support these groups on their site, and why did these groups form in first place.
- zimpenfish 9y ago
  > Now the big question is, why does reddit, a SV company, still support these groups on their site I'm assuming you want a more nuanced answer than "because SV is libertarian white dude central"? > why did these groups form in first place. Oh, that's easy - because the US has been a racist country for decades and no-one has had the balls to stamp it out.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    > Oh, that's easy - because the US has been a racist country for decades and no-one has had the balls to stamp it out. That explains why they exist, but not why new groups form today still.
    - zimpenfish 9y ago
      Well, they're not really new groups - militia and the klan have been around for decades. They just like giving themselves new names because, like all angry idiots, they start infighting and splintering from each other. Although, yes, the GOP have been enabling and emboldening them for the last (at least 5 but really many more) years - now they have a whole bunch of people who support them in the WH that are dismantling anti-WS task forces etc.
      - int_19h 9y ago
        Most of the ones that participated in the march in Charlottesville were genuine new groups: Identity Evropa, Vanguard America, Traditionalist Worker Party etc. And most of their membership is not a split from KKK etc. It's new people, often with very different backgrounds age- and education-wise. And one distinguishing thing about them is that they put a lot more emphasis on politics and outreach compared to KKK, and they openly reference fascist and Nazi ideas - which is to say, they don't just talk about white supremacy, but they talk about fascist ideals for governance etc. Make no mistake, this is a new wave of political right-wing authoritarianism in US, not the same old.

I only saw the headline but yeah, that was enough. Although from other Daily Stormer content I have seen, that's pretty much par for the course.

throwaway290302 9y ago

Here's the archived article (titled "Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut") for reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20170813181100/https://www.dailystormer.com/heather-heyer-woman-killed-in-road-rage-incident-was-a-fat-childless-32-year-old-slut/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170813181100/https://www.daily...

kuschku 9y ago

Honestly, it's not surprising. /r/the_donald, 4chan's /pol/ etc all had far worse responses to this situation. The article from the daily stormer, as horrible as it is, is ithe least offensive right-wing response to this that I've read yet. Everything else went even further. Now the big question is, why does reddit, a SV company, still support these groups on their site, and why did these groups form in first place.

zimpenfish 9y ago
> Now the big question is, why does reddit, a SV company, still support these groups on their site I'm assuming you want a more nuanced answer than "because SV is libertarian white dude central"? > why did these groups form in first place. Oh, that's easy - because the US has been a racist country for decades and no-one has had the balls to stamp it out.
- kuschku 9y ago
  > Oh, that's easy - because the US has been a racist country for decades and no-one has had the balls to stamp it out. That explains why they exist, but not why new groups form today still.
  - zimpenfish 9y ago
    Well, they're not really new groups - militia and the klan have been around for decades. They just like giving themselves new names because, like all angry idiots, they start infighting and splintering from each other. Although, yes, the GOP have been enabling and emboldening them for the last (at least 5 but really many more) years - now they have a whole bunch of people who support them in the WH that are dismantling anti-WS task forces etc.
    - int_19h 9y ago
      Most of the ones that participated in the march in Charlottesville were genuine new groups: Identity Evropa, Vanguard America, Traditionalist Worker Party etc. And most of their membership is not a split from KKK etc. It's new people, often with very different backgrounds age- and education-wise. And one distinguishing thing about them is that they put a lot more emphasis on politics and outreach compared to KKK, and they openly reference fascist and Nazi ideas - which is to say, they don't just talk about white supremacy, but they talk about fascist ideals for governance etc. Make no mistake, this is a new wave of political right-wing authoritarianism in US, not the same old.