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But you can't submit exercises. https://learner.coursera.help/hc/en-us/articles/209818613-Enrollment-options https://learner.coursera.help/hc/en-us/articles/20

by Torai 9y ago

But you can't submit exercises. https://learner.coursera.help/hc/en-us/articles/209818613-Enrollment-options https://learner.coursera.help/hc/en-us/articles/209818613-En... When you audit a course: - You'll be able to see most of the course materials for free, but you won't be able to submit certain assignments or get grades for your work. - You won't be able to submit assignments for feedback or a grade. - You won't get a Course Certificate.

Blackthorn 9y ago
Ugh, Coursera has gone way downhill.
- sgslo 9y ago
  Its a business, do you not expect them to somehow collect revenue on products they have created?
  - ghaff 9y ago
    The basic problem is that Coursera wasn't successful in attaching some meaningful value to their certificates as credentials. And, if the credential isn't meaningful, why on earth would I want to pay a VC-funded company for a PDF that has zero value to me? Taking the course may be worthwhile but a certificate adds essentially nothing to that. So now they've effectively eliminated just about the only thing that distinguishes them from some YouTube videos and a textbook.
    - gaius 9y ago
      The basic problem is that Coursera wasn't successful in attaching some meaningful value to their certificates as credentials. The EdX solution to this is that their courses are all endorsed or run by brick-and-mortar universities with considerable investments in their brand that they won't want to tarnish by attaching it to any random certificate.
      - ghaff 9y ago
        I'm not sure to what degree EdX has really "solved" this. My impression is there's quite of range of quality and rigor on EdX as well. And, more centrally, most people still don't see EdX certificates as general substitutes for more conventional educational degrees.
        gaius 9y ago
        Not a degree sure but many e.g. XSeries and MicroMasters are at the level of diplomas.
  - posterboy 9y ago
    when they start for free, there's hope they aren't just trying to beat the competition with discount prices.
  - Blackthorn 9y ago
    They've created the courses? Seems to me like it's the professors teaching them that created them. What value is Coursera adding?

by Torai 9y ago

Blackthorn 9y ago

Ugh, Coursera has gone way downhill.

sgslo 9y ago
Its a business, do you not expect them to somehow collect revenue on products they have created?
- ghaff 9y ago
  The basic problem is that Coursera wasn't successful in attaching some meaningful value to their certificates as credentials. And, if the credential isn't meaningful, why on earth would I want to pay a VC-funded company for a PDF that has zero value to me? Taking the course may be worthwhile but a certificate adds essentially nothing to that. So now they've effectively eliminated just about the only thing that distinguishes them from some YouTube videos and a textbook.
  - gaius 9y ago
    The basic problem is that Coursera wasn't successful in attaching some meaningful value to their certificates as credentials. The EdX solution to this is that their courses are all endorsed or run by brick-and-mortar universities with considerable investments in their brand that they won't want to tarnish by attaching it to any random certificate.
    - ghaff 9y ago
      I'm not sure to what degree EdX has really "solved" this. My impression is there's quite of range of quality and rigor on EdX as well. And, more centrally, most people still don't see EdX certificates as general substitutes for more conventional educational degrees.
      - gaius 9y ago
        Not a degree sure but many e.g. XSeries and MicroMasters are at the level of diplomas.
- posterboy 9y ago
  when they start for free, there's hope they aren't just trying to beat the competition with discount prices.
- Blackthorn 9y ago
  They've created the courses? Seems to me like it's the professors teaching them that created them. What value is Coursera adding?