I'm sure your right. The fact that they haven't updated that and I've been in *nix/OSX for 8 years now made my frustration point maybe lower than it should have

I'm sure your right. The fact that they haven't updated that and I've been in *nix/OSX for 8 years now made my frustration point maybe lower than it should have been. Then the next thing I'm doing is trying to use cmd and powershell and my hair falls out. But this is great info and will definitely keep be from cursing quite as much next time I'm MS admining.