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Show HN: Unlimited UI design

41 points by fairpx 9y ago

marvy 9y ago
To: ftftytfty. Your comments show up as [dead]. No clue why. Maybe contact someone official. (dang?)
davidmurdoch 9y ago
You've got a 404 on the link in the top left corner (mobile). Is this site associated with Remy Sharp? Also, when scanning your prices real quick on mobile I saw "$6,000/mo" and just about noped out. I understand what you're trying to do here, but maybe you need to rethink the placement of this comparison price?
- davidmurdoch 9y ago
  For passerbys: I honestly thought my comment above would be well received but it's currently in the negative. What about my comment could be improved here?
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]
  - true_religion 9y ago
    They're a contracting agency. 6000/mo isn't a huge rate to pay a single contractor, nevermind an entire agency.
    - fairpx 9y ago
      We dont charge 6000/mo
  - wingerlang 9y ago
    You could at least read the website before "noping out". It clearly says: > Without paying $6,000/mo+ for an in-house UI designer ..with the actual price right below.
AbuAssar 9y ago
on my work LCD monitor, it is very hard to read the site font, it is thin and blurred.
have_faith 9y ago
I'm immediately put off by any service that uses the word unlimited in marketing material. Whether that's "unlimited" bandwidth, storage space, use of someone's time, or all you can eat hot wings. Some criticisms: The site is a one page brochure site, it feels odd for a service of this scale. Your example images aren't clickable and there's no explanation of what I'm looking at exactly. Email sounds like a bad format for handling project management, it's difficult to follow an email chain to figure out what was agreed on etc, email is a very bad single-source-of-truth for project details. I'm being critical because I don't think it's a bad idea, I just think the execution could do with polishing. There are companies that could perhaps benefits from this idea, but I would be put off by this page. p.s. you're missing a favicon.
- anilgulecha 9y ago
  The site is bare because they've been trying to create a recurring-revenue product out of design services. There's some history and discussions in the (many) older posts by the user[1]. (I think trying to create a repeatable model for services is great BTW -- helps support smaller lifestyle business, IMO, which we need more of.) https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=fairpx https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=fairpx
willwhitney 9y ago
They have a grammatical error ("deliciously looking") in their (2) step.
- fairpx 9y ago
  Tnx for the headsup
semperdark 9y ago
Your copy says: "Instead of paying $1,800+ per project, or hiring an in-house UI designer with a $70,000+/year salary, Fairpixels Pro gives you the best of both worlds at a fraction of the cost." At the same time, your cheapest plan is $1750/mo. I get that it's "technically" under $1800, but are you expecting startups to have multiple projects per month to make the math work?
- olegkikin 9y ago
  Notice that it also says "≤ 4 Business Day Turnaround Time", so technically $1750 buys you 7.5 projects every month. Whether they can actually deliver finished designs every 4 days is a different question.
  - jakobegger 9y ago
    My experience with designers is that it takes a lot of revisions to get stuff right. A single project will have dozens of emails back and forth. If a response really takes 4 working days, that doesn’t sound very useful — unless you aren’t picky and will accept whatever the designer sends you (which in my experience usually isn’t even close to the quality of the work in their portfolio)
    - fairpx 9y ago
      We're averaging about 3 projects/mo per client based on the first batch of customers who've been using the service for the last 4 months or so. Having a dedicated design team (not outsourced but in house) makes it easier for the client. They know what to expect. The workflow gets improved etc. the way we can make it work is because of the subscription model. It allows us to spend less time looking for projects (time = money). And more time doing what we love (designing interfaces and brands)
ftftytfty 9y ago
why can't anyone see my comments?
dangero 9y ago
I've seen a lot of freelance design services going this direction lately: https://designpickle.com https://designpickle.com is one example
- jszymborski 9y ago
  Wow... a lot of those work samples are surprisingly unimpressive. I would think that an agency would only feature their best designs, in which case I'd hate to see what the median looks like.
- majewsky 9y ago
  I'm seeing a bunch of white and gray screen areas without any text in them. That's either a refreshing and bold insistence on minimalism or uMatrix doing its job.
jtth 9y ago
In a well-oiled world, someone subscribing to this service would use one employee full-time. $1750 doesn't pay that person's monthly salary unless you're outsourcing heavily, which is something people shopping for this service probably already know how to do. So I guess I'm confused as to how this all works, other than relying on the subscribers' downtime as profit, which sets up a really weird relationship between the business and its users.
- fairpx 9y ago
  We've been running thr service for a while now and the reality is that one designer can easily handle multiple clients. We've basically improved our internal workflow to work as effectively as possible. The more we work with a particular client, the better we get at anticipating their project types, expectations, etc.
tsunamifury 9y ago
I guess this service somehow hopes that you can separate the interaction design from the visual design... except the interaction design is the expensive part (to the tune of a 2x more than 70k/y). So I guess in this workflow the PM is also the interaction designer and implementation with an engineer, while you pay for these UI decorators on top. Might work for some small website updates, but anything more substatial would probably be not worth it.
clishem 9y ago
The logo links to http://fairpixels.co/pro/index.php http://fairpixels.co/pro/index.php which gives a 404.
maxraz 9y ago
Are your UIs made from scratch or you use templates?

41 points by fairpx 9y ago

To: ftftytfty. Your comments show up as [dead]. No clue why. Maybe contact someone official. (dang?)

You've got a 404 on the link in the top left corner (mobile). Is this site associated with Remy Sharp? Also, when scanning your prices real quick on mobile I saw "$6,000/mo" and just about noped out. I understand what you're trying to do here, but maybe you need to rethink the placement of this comparison price?

davidmurdoch 9y ago
For passerbys: I honestly thought my comment above would be well received but it's currently in the negative. What about my comment could be improved here?
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
- true_religion 9y ago
  They're a contracting agency. 6000/mo isn't a huge rate to pay a single contractor, nevermind an entire agency.
  - fairpx 9y ago
    We dont charge 6000/mo
- wingerlang 9y ago
  You could at least read the website before "noping out". It clearly says: > Without paying $6,000/mo+ for an in-house UI designer ..with the actual price right below.

AbuAssar 9y ago

on my work LCD monitor, it is very hard to read the site font, it is thin and blurred.

have_faith 9y ago

I'm immediately put off by any service that uses the word unlimited in marketing material. Whether that's "unlimited" bandwidth, storage space, use of someone's time, or all you can eat hot wings. Some criticisms: The site is a one page brochure site, it feels odd for a service of this scale. Your example images aren't clickable and there's no explanation of what I'm looking at exactly. Email sounds like a bad format for handling project management, it's difficult to follow an email chain to figure out what was agreed on etc, email is a very bad single-source-of-truth for project details. I'm being critical because I don't think it's a bad idea, I just think the execution could do with polishing. There are companies that could perhaps benefits from this idea, but I would be put off by this page. p.s. you're missing a favicon.

anilgulecha 9y ago
The site is bare because they've been trying to create a recurring-revenue product out of design services. There's some history and discussions in the (many) older posts by the user[1]. (I think trying to create a repeatable model for services is great BTW -- helps support smaller lifestyle business, IMO, which we need more of.) https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=fairpx https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=fairpx

willwhitney 9y ago

They have a grammatical error ("deliciously looking") in their (2) step.

fairpx 9y ago
Tnx for the headsup

semperdark 9y ago

Your copy says: "Instead of paying $1,800+ per project, or hiring an in-house UI designer with a $70,000+/year salary, Fairpixels Pro gives you the best of both worlds at a fraction of the cost." At the same time, your cheapest plan is $1750/mo. I get that it's "technically" under $1800, but are you expecting startups to have multiple projects per month to make the math work?

olegkikin 9y ago
Notice that it also says "≤ 4 Business Day Turnaround Time", so technically $1750 buys you 7.5 projects every month. Whether they can actually deliver finished designs every 4 days is a different question.
- jakobegger 9y ago
  My experience with designers is that it takes a lot of revisions to get stuff right. A single project will have dozens of emails back and forth. If a response really takes 4 working days, that doesn’t sound very useful — unless you aren’t picky and will accept whatever the designer sends you (which in my experience usually isn’t even close to the quality of the work in their portfolio)
  - fairpx 9y ago
    We're averaging about 3 projects/mo per client based on the first batch of customers who've been using the service for the last 4 months or so. Having a dedicated design team (not outsourced but in house) makes it easier for the client. They know what to expect. The workflow gets improved etc. the way we can make it work is because of the subscription model. It allows us to spend less time looking for projects (time = money). And more time doing what we love (designing interfaces and brands)

ftftytfty 9y ago

why can't anyone see my comments?

dangero 9y ago

I've seen a lot of freelance design services going this direction lately: https://designpickle.com https://designpickle.com is one example

jszymborski 9y ago
Wow... a lot of those work samples are surprisingly unimpressive. I would think that an agency would only feature their best designs, in which case I'd hate to see what the median looks like.
majewsky 9y ago
I'm seeing a bunch of white and gray screen areas without any text in them. That's either a refreshing and bold insistence on minimalism or uMatrix doing its job.

jtth 9y ago

In a well-oiled world, someone subscribing to this service would use one employee full-time. $1750 doesn't pay that person's monthly salary unless you're outsourcing heavily, which is something people shopping for this service probably already know how to do. So I guess I'm confused as to how this all works, other than relying on the subscribers' downtime as profit, which sets up a really weird relationship between the business and its users.

fairpx 9y ago
We've been running thr service for a while now and the reality is that one designer can easily handle multiple clients. We've basically improved our internal workflow to work as effectively as possible. The more we work with a particular client, the better we get at anticipating their project types, expectations, etc.

tsunamifury 9y ago

I guess this service somehow hopes that you can separate the interaction design from the visual design... except the interaction design is the expensive part (to the tune of a 2x more than 70k/y). So I guess in this workflow the PM is also the interaction designer and implementation with an engineer, while you pay for these UI decorators on top. Might work for some small website updates, but anything more substatial would probably be not worth it.

clishem 9y ago

The logo links to http://fairpixels.co/pro/index.php http://fairpixels.co/pro/index.php which gives a 404.

maxraz 9y ago

Are your UIs made from scratch or you use templates?