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You are missing the point. Tesla customers care about money as much as Apple customers do...they don't. What they care about is being part of the future...tod

You are missing the point. Tesla customers care about money as much as Apple customers do...they don't. What they care about is being part of the future...today! Tesla customers look at ICE cars and grid dependence like Apple owners look at feature phones...pity full.

bharath28 9y ago
What they care about is being part of the future...today! And why is this bad?
- Rexxar 9y ago
  No one has told that this is a bad thing in this discussion.
hueving 9y ago
People that want grid independence are quite selfish when they simultaneously demand that the grid pay them retail rates for excess electricity. They are free riders on the transmission and deliver at suboptimal times. IMO grid independence is not a laudable goal because it means no scalable energy storage and production systems. Particularly when someone still wants the option to use the grid at their convenience. The maintenance burden is now spread across fewer paying customers with the same number of lines to maintain.
rohit2412 9y ago
That's what I disagree with. Tesla customers are just looking for the next status symbol. I have talked to enough tesla owners and fans to tell you that they haven't even heard of Renault Zoe or BYD ev300. And they would never consider Chevy bolt. Its all about the brand name, and not about futuristic electric cars. Tesla could start making ICE cars and they will still buy them
- vsl 9y ago
  Go look at the UI/UX of a Tesla and compare it to the old car manfacturer crappy UI in Zoe. Compare range. Fast charging options. Fun of driving (Zoe has 16s 0-100km; that's much worse than my old small city ICE). And that's before comparing to Model 3's soon to be only a bit higher price for much better experience. You don't know what you're talking about. Drive a Tesla before lecturing about how I'm looking for a status symbol.

bharath28 9y ago

What they care about is being part of the future...today! And why is this bad?

Rexxar 9y ago
No one has told that this is a bad thing in this discussion.

hueving 9y ago

People that want grid independence are quite selfish when they simultaneously demand that the grid pay them retail rates for excess electricity. They are free riders on the transmission and deliver at suboptimal times. IMO grid independence is not a laudable goal because it means no scalable energy storage and production systems. Particularly when someone still wants the option to use the grid at their convenience. The maintenance burden is now spread across fewer paying customers with the same number of lines to maintain.

rohit2412 9y ago

That's what I disagree with. Tesla customers are just looking for the next status symbol. I have talked to enough tesla owners and fans to tell you that they haven't even heard of Renault Zoe or BYD ev300. And they would never consider Chevy bolt. Its all about the brand name, and not about futuristic electric cars. Tesla could start making ICE cars and they will still buy them

vsl 9y ago
Go look at the UI/UX of a Tesla and compare it to the old car manfacturer crappy UI in Zoe. Compare range. Fast charging options. Fun of driving (Zoe has 16s 0-100km; that's much worse than my old small city ICE). And that's before comparing to Model 3's soon to be only a bit higher price for much better experience. You don't know what you're talking about. Drive a Tesla before lecturing about how I'm looking for a status symbol.